Palace Racism

[fender62]

Ngozi Fulani was asked where she was originally from mmm, whats the problem there
it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11486513/Prince-William-condemns-unacceptable-comments-godmother-Lady-Susan-Hussey.html

[andy-hughes]

tigger - // I can't believe this is still dragging on. What happened to 'agree to disagree and move on'? //

Where's the fun in that?

I'd much rather read people tying themselves in knots and getting ever further away from the original discussion, rather than simply concede that what they read is what happened, and not some giant conspiracy to do an old lady out of the position that she chose to resign from herself.

[tiggerblue10]

I share similar views to you and Ellipsis on this matter, Andy. But I really do think it's time to put it to bed.

[andy-hughes]

tigger - // I share similar views to you and Ellipsis on this matter, Andy. But I really do think it's time to put it to bed. //

I can see your point, but i find the spectacle of people who I had thought of as intelligent and rational people, willfully ignoring basic facts, and a logical conclusion, in favour of ever more outlandish and potty conspiracy theories, really hard to resist.

[andres]

The whole affair is intriguing . Coloured woman goes to Kensigton Palace to attend a Charity function. Meets a member of the Royal household who asks her where she comes from. Then follows a lengthy dialogue between the two women. How on earth did the woman of colour remember verbatim the conversation . Did she have her phone recording it? That's the intriguing bit to me.

[Ellipsis]

It doesn't matter whether the conversation was remembered or recorded. Everybody who was there agrees that it happened.

[andy-hughes]

Andres - I refer you to my recent post, where I confirmed that I can recall verbatim conversations longer than the exchange quoted, that took place more than thirty years ago.

The idea of recalling accurately a short exchange a few hours previously, seems perfectly reasonable in experience.

[Peter Pedant]

I refer you to my recent post, where I confirmed that I can recall verbatim conversations

er - but how do you check, or do you just KNOW ?

Seems we dont need secretaries or tape recorders but hey ho they are still on the market

you need to transcribe within about an hour and even then you may miss 75% detail - that is - it fades very quickly

this covers a bit
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/memory-vibrancy-fades.html

but isnt the one that I am thinking of.

Issues not er at issue here is - false memory - you remember something that just didnt happen.

and filling in bits: show a video clip of part of a bank robbery and the witness obligingly fills in with what happened before and aft ( the video that is!)

Phones are used to record, but we know the Palace makes punters hand in their phones - hence how did Harry etc....and also how did SHE - ngozi - manage to record it

[andres]

A.H --We are not all endowed with your intellectual capacity I bow to your superiority .

[Peter Pedant]

Oh it is called Decay Theory ( memories fading). First examined scientifically in.. 1914

Dont read Andy
read it here! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decay_theory

I thought there was far too much detail for her to have remembered it. And of course Lady Hussey DIDN'T say "that isnt quite how I remember it"

[Barsel]

I don't think Lady Hussey has said anything, has she?
Probably happy to apologise and let it go which is what she's done.
Ellipsis
///Everybody who was there agrees that it happened.///
Did they take statements off everybody?

[Ellipsis]

What are you saying?

It never happened? It happened, but not anything like that? It happened roughly like that? Or it happened exactly like that?

I'll go for the third or fourth one. They're in line with Lady Susan stepping aside, with Prince William's comments, with the Palace's comments and with Ngozi Fulani's comments.

[Ellipsis]

That was to Peter but fortunately applies also to Barsel.

[Barsel]

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I was just pointing out your comment that everybody who was there agreed it happened.

[Ellipsis]

Well, they do. Lady Susan, as a representative of the Palace, apologised and stepped aside, and the Palace itself said that unacceptable and deeply regrettable comments were made.

[naomi24]

AH, the only person here I’ve seen tying themselves in knots is you. You’re meeting yourself coming back with this one. No surprise you dodge questions.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, the only person here I’ve seen tying themselves in knots is you. You’re meeting yourself coming back with this one. No surprise you dodge questions. //

Well you would say that, wouldn't you ...

[naomi24]

Not if it wasn't true.

[douglas9401]

Try as I might I can't get the image of a fully grown man (verification needed) doing a little dance while singing to himself about how clever he is.

Like one of those Eastern European folk tale characters from kids TV in the old days.

[piggynose]

Is it normal for somebody to give about 175 replies to a thread? I'm just asking!

[andy-hughes]

Douglas, you need to see a therapist.