Brexit Is About To Get Much, Much Worse For Uk Citizens

[Hymie]

If you thought the continuing loss of billions of pounds in tax to the exchequer (and even more to the UK economy as a whole) as a direct result of Brexit is bad; you ain’t seen nothing yet.

The ‘EU law revocation and reform bill’ which has already passed two votes on the House of Commons (and despite not having passed into law yet), is due to take effect at the end of next year.

The bill proposes the loss of a host of rights, freedoms and protections of ordinary people; amongst them the right to annual paid leave, the right of women to equal pay for doing the same work as men and many, many more rights UK citizens have enjoyed for years as a result of being members of the EU.

I don’t recall the loss of these rights being plastered on the side of a red bus during the referendum debate – but that’s what you fools voted for.

[Hymie]

It is a false premise that we are going to replace EU laws, they have already been transcribed into UK law (so we have no EU laws) – this Bill removes citizens rights, currently enjoyed within those transcribed laws.

Under the EU Directive giving women equal rights, UK laws would have been put in place (giving women those prescribed protections/rights), and after Brexit, transcribed into UK law.

Now those women’s rights are under threat – let’s hope no women voted for Brexit.

[royfromaus]

Hymie, you haven't even looked at the Bill have you?

[Zacs-Master]

‘ this Bill removes citizens rights’

It does nothing of the kind. You clearly have zero grasp of the actual situation.

[ToraToraTora]

hymie: "It is a false premise that we are going to replace EU laws, they have already been transcribed into UK law (so we have no EU laws) " - gawed your ignorance is breathtaking. Yes they are absorbed now they need amending. Show us the evidence that the things you talk about are going to be removed or button it.

[Hymie]

To those who think there is no plan within this Bill to remove citizen’s rights (gained originally under EU law); the first sentence of the Bill reads:-

‘A Bill to Revoke certain retained EU law.....’

[bobbinwales]

I think your missing the point hymie

[royfromaus]

You are coming across as an idiot, Hymie.

Removing my post won't alter the truth.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes, Hymie, and then it goes on to say ‘to make provision relating to the interpretation of retained EU law and to its relationship with other law; to make provision relating to powers to modify retained EU law; to enable the restatement, replacement or updating of certain retained EU law; to enable the updating of restatements and replacement provision; to abolish the business impact target; and for connected purposes.’

[ToraToraTora]

Don't confuse him with text Zacs!

[Hymie]

To those who think that the Bill does not revoke EU law, the Bill goes on the state:-

The following are revoked at the end of 2023—
(a) EU-derived subordinate legislation;
(b) retained direct EU legislation.

[ToraToraTora]

hymie: "To those who think that the Bill does not revoke EU law, the Bill goes on the state:- " - do you even read what others write? Several of us above have said that EUSSR law is being revoked above. Then replaced by equivalent UK law. Try reading what people write in between your rabid bloviations.

[royfromaus]

Women...equal pay...Hymie


Link to that please.

[Hymie]

The EU derived/retained legislation that is being revoked by the Bill gives women the right to equal pay.

[naomi24]

Hymie, laws that were introduced by the EU are being reviewed. That doesn't mean that laws per se will no longer exist. This is silly.

[royfromaus]

Can you only do youtube links?

[Hymie]

Where does it say in the Bill that women’s rights to equal pay (that are to be removed under the revoked EU derived/retained legislation) are to be retained?

[Zacs-Master]

Look, once and for all, there is a small possibility that laws will be repealed (revoked, if you like) but nothing is certain and it is fairly unlikely. Stop wittering about things which might not happen.

[Hymie]

TTT incorrectly states that the EU law is being revoked, and then replaced by UK law – this is not so.

The proposed revoked EU derived/retained legislation is being revoked as of the end of 2023, there is no requirement in the Bill for it to be replaced.

There are 5 notes under the revocation clause, but none of these requires the revoked EU laws to be enacted as a UK law (or changed UK law). The Bill then goes on to cover things such as the supremacy of EU law and abolition of general principles of EU law etc.

[youngmafbog]

Hymie, you have lost the plot.

Seek help, you seriously need it before you let this eat you up, which it clearly is doing.

[Hymie]

I don’t see how I’m losing the plot by explaining the implications of a Bill passing through our parliament – is seems to me that the Brexiteers have lost the plot, refusing to believe what I post (this seems to be a common occurrence on this site).