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Northern Ireland Windsor Framework
Rishi Sunak has extolled the Windsor framework a fantastic deal for Northern Ireland in giving them access to both the UK and European markets (placing them a unique position in the world), saying that business leaders want to invest in Northern Ireland, making it the world’s most exciting economic zone (Sunak’s words, not mine).
Given that this Windsor framework is a fantastic deal (for the reasons above), can any Brexiteers explain why the Windsor framework is not being applied the whole of GB (England, Scotland & Wales), thereby making us one of the world’s most exciting economic zones, having access to European markets?
Given that this Windsor framework is a fantastic deal (for the reasons above), can any Brexiteers explain why the Windsor framework is not being applied the whole of GB (England, Scotland & Wales), thereby making us one of the world’s most exciting economic zones, having access to European markets?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.This was a teasing question at PMQs by the SNP leader.
It was funny watching Sunak squirm. Even TTT couldn’t be bothered to claim Thatcher2 had won the day.
It was a bit of an unfair question. NI and Scotland are not the same.
All good fun.
Watching yet another useless Conservative PM fail dismally is one of my latest sadistic pleasures. Sunak is on a lose/lose strategy, and it won’t end pretty.
It was funny watching Sunak squirm. Even TTT couldn’t be bothered to claim Thatcher2 had won the day.
It was a bit of an unfair question. NI and Scotland are not the same.
All good fun.
Watching yet another useless Conservative PM fail dismally is one of my latest sadistic pleasures. Sunak is on a lose/lose strategy, and it won’t end pretty.
Trying again ;-)
It depends how you look at it: the point about N Ireland has been made before, ironically, as I said, often by Brexiteers.
But not the DUP.
I sympathise with the SNP to an extent: personally I think N Ireland deserves this privileged place but then I’m biased. For one thing because it is compensates for the border conundrum which honestly is insoluble by any known means. And secondly because NI after all did vote to remain in the EU. Scotland shares the second of these reasons but not both.
I like Sunak: after the chaos of Johnson and Truss he feels like a whiff of sanity. The problem is his party.
But even then most of the hardliners seem happy with Windsor.
And he’s right to go easy on the DUP for now : the reward of Donaldson being able to win round the loons like Ian Paisley and the demented Sammy Wilson will be the return of a government at Stormont.
It depends how you look at it: the point about N Ireland has been made before, ironically, as I said, often by Brexiteers.
But not the DUP.
I sympathise with the SNP to an extent: personally I think N Ireland deserves this privileged place but then I’m biased. For one thing because it is compensates for the border conundrum which honestly is insoluble by any known means. And secondly because NI after all did vote to remain in the EU. Scotland shares the second of these reasons but not both.
I like Sunak: after the chaos of Johnson and Truss he feels like a whiff of sanity. The problem is his party.
But even then most of the hardliners seem happy with Windsor.
And he’s right to go easy on the DUP for now : the reward of Donaldson being able to win round the loons like Ian Paisley and the demented Sammy Wilson will be the return of a government at Stormont.
A lot of people missing the point here: Hymie’s question is largely rhetorical.
Sunak is quite correct in what he says: but at the risk of repeating myself it’s not the Windsor Framework that has led to this “ideal” state of affairs. All that aims to do is make things run more smoothly within it.
So he’s talking up the positives in order to make it politically easier for the Unionists to accept, while presumably taking the hit from those who reasonably (but hypothetically) ask Hymie’s question.
That’s the Right Thing for Sunak to be doing
Sunak is quite correct in what he says: but at the risk of repeating myself it’s not the Windsor Framework that has led to this “ideal” state of affairs. All that aims to do is make things run more smoothly within it.
So he’s talking up the positives in order to make it politically easier for the Unionists to accept, while presumably taking the hit from those who reasonably (but hypothetically) ask Hymie’s question.
That’s the Right Thing for Sunak to be doing
The Windsor Framework reminds me of the EU Reform Bill 2016, when David Cameron negotiated a deal with the EU, cqme back to "sell" it to the detractors, and it fell flat. The same negotiating and selling is now happening with Rishi Sunak, and the outcome could well be the same falling flat.
The problem is that the detractors are many and various, and don't agree with each other. What if the opposite way was tried ... get the detractors to agree first, and then try the result with the EU? Nope, that would not agree either, because the detractors will not agree with each other!
So, we either stay in the mess we are in, or we push on with the new agreement and tough if you don't like it.
The problem is that the detractors are many and various, and don't agree with each other. What if the opposite way was tried ... get the detractors to agree first, and then try the result with the EU? Nope, that would not agree either, because the detractors will not agree with each other!
So, we either stay in the mess we are in, or we push on with the new agreement and tough if you don't like it.
I had not read this when I made my previous post:
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