That Damn Brexit Eh...?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/cptpp-uk-accepted-into-indo-pacific-trade-bloc-in-biggest-trade-deal-since-brexit-12845758
...no doubt the 5C will come along and pour scorn on this deal but hey that's their job!

[douglas9401]

Ah good, found your level.

[ToraToraTora]

Naomi: "You Remainers are so weak. You know the price of everything and the value of nothing " - yep that sums them up. They only ever talk about money, never about what matters.

[MissTerious2]

Douglas, sorry but your quips are getting tiring and annoying now.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi, you seem to be moving your own personal goalposts. According to the link I posted to your 2018 post the money side of brexit was an important factor for you. Now that you realise it wasn’t quite as rosy as you thought, it’s not about the money at all, apparently, and all about escaping the stranglehold which the EU had on us. Strangely enough no one can actually point out anything approaching an abusive spouse scenario.

Your ideals seem to be very……fluid.

[Togo]

The remaniacs are furious that this trade deal coupled, with the AUKUS military and security pact and a further defence pact with Japan, wrests our destiny out of the malign EUSSR corrupt hands and guarantees our freedom from their sclerotic, moribund, "trade" ponzi scheme. Written below are excerpts from a source that is not anti UK, and uninfluenced by our treacherous civil service or National Broadcaster. Deep joy. :))

//The UK’s accession to the giant Asian trading bloc CPTPP is an economic and political triumph. Belonging to this bloc – larger, much faster growing and more liberal in trade policy than the EU – is incompatible with EU membership. No future UK government could realistically attempt to leave the CPTPP and re-join the EU.//

and.
//It is difficult to exaggerate the momentous nature of this agreement, one with huge economic and geo-political implications. In the words of Professor Stephanie Rickard of the London School of Economics “The UK is trailblazing. This is changing the agreement from a regional one to a global one”, while world trade expert Professor David Collins says that this “raises the UK’s status enormously in the global economy”.//

https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/brexit-is-now-irreversible/

[ToraToraTora]

that's great togs, will no doubt get the 5C foaming at the mouth.

[MissTerious2]

We can all adjust our thoughts as circumstances change. And the circumstances after Brexit certainly change throughout the world.
Pandemics and war changed everything. But the basic reasons for leaving remain, and for me it wasn't immigration. My main concern now is Rishi Sumak an his soft pally pally approach. We need a strong no nonsense leader, but I cant think of anybody that fits the bill!

[jno]

no, no, I'm still shrieking with joy at the 0.08% triumph! Of course, that's after 10 years. But having secret courts in which multinationals can sue the government will surely delight any true Brit who cares about sovereignty!

Interesting that one of Trump's first acts in office was to pull out of talks on joining the group. But what would he know.

[Untitled]

i am very pleased that you can afford to ignore the economy toratoratora but most people can’t… and besides as zacs is demonstrating with naomi barely any brexiters (if any?) actually admitted that brexit would be economically damaging at the time… most seemed to think that it would economically benefit us and then just claimed they never believed that later on.

the “sovereignty” benefits don’t amount to much in my opinion as i never felt the EU to be particularly oppressive… nor in my heart of hearts do i truthfully believe that anyone else did either regardless of what they now say about it.

as i say though it is now irreversible so everyone else will just have to live with it

[New Judge]

//i am very pleased that you can afford to ignore the economy toratoratora but most people can’t…//

Yes they can, and they do. Not many people care that the UK economy grew by 0.1% last month, or are disappointed that it was 0.2% or 0.3%.

//...the “sovereignty” benefits don’t amount to much in my opinion as i never felt the EU to be particularly oppressive… //

Lucky you.

//...nor in my heart of hearts do i truthfully believe that anyone else did either regardless of what they now say about it.//

I most certainly did, as I mentioned once or twice leading up to the referendum and during the interminable debates afterwards.

[Ellipsis]

> I wonder how many would stay with dominating spouse for fear of going it alone and being prepared to work to rebuild a life free of someone else's control?

I wonder how many dominated spouses think this would be a good analogy, and how many others would think it was totally crass ...

[naomi24]

I’ll make more than an educated guess and say it’s a good analogy, ellipsis.

[Untitled]

how did the eu make you feel oppressed new judge?

[Ellipsis]

Crass, naomi ...

[naomi24]

No explanation then?

[Ellipsis]

I think if you'd known anybody close to you who'd had a dominating spouse, or even worse you'd been a victim of one yourself, you'd know just how crass it would be to compare it to the EU.

[New Judge]

//...how did the eu make you feel oppressed new judge?//

Because it usurped the supremacy of the UK Parliament.

[naomi24]

I’ll thank you to keep your sanctimonious preaching to yourself, ellipsis. You know nothing about me or my life.

[Ellipsis]

Calling the crassness of your posts is not sanctimonious preaching. If you do have some experience of dominating spouses, you will know just how awful your comparison was. But, of course, you could never agree it now ...

[naomi24]

I don’t agree, ellipsis. The analogy there is the fear of going it alone. Had you taken the trouble to actually try to comprehend what you were reading before jumping on your unjustified high horse, you might - just might - have understood that.