Has Camilla, The Queen Consort 'Won Your Heart'?

[sp1814]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11940961/How-Queen-Camilla-won-hearts-nation.html#comments

[ToraToraTora]

Note how the Queen of Charles II is referred to here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Braganza

[sp1814]

TTT

Camilla’s title until Charles is crowned is Queen Consort.

After she is crowned, she’ll be known as Queen.

This has nothing to do with Diana - it’s royal tradition.

Also - in your post from earlier, you wrote:

//She became a Queen the same time as the King became the King, on the passing of the former Queen. The coronation is just a ceremony it has no actual bearing on anything//

I’m not going to assume you’re wrong because you sound so adamant. But where did you get that info from?

[sp1814]

In answer to my own question, Camilla is not *my* Queen but at the same time, she’s not not my Queen. I liked Diana but I never bought into the wicked stepmother thing.

Good luck to her.

[sp1814]

TTT

Stop digging.

[Zacs-Master]

'because they are playing along ZM'

Oh right. Of course.

Wibble.

[Gill1941]

She doesn't need to win my heart.
I like her.
Could never stand Diana.

[ToraToraTora]

sp: TTT

//Camilla’s title until Charles is crowned is Queen Consort. // - no it’s what she is and that’s forever.

//After she is crowned, she’ll be known as Queen. // - She is the Queen now, the suffix “consort” is silent when referring to her

//This has nothing to do with Diana - it’s royal tradition. // - No it’s royal non tradition induced by the post mortem Diana hysteria.

\\Also - in your post from earlier, you wrote:

//She became a Queen the same time as the King became the King, on the passing of the former Queen. The coronation is just a ceremony it has no actual bearing on anything//

I’m not going to assume you’re wrong because you sound so adamant. But where did you get that info from?\\
Precident, history.

[Rosetta]

I like her, I think she seems down to earth and is doing her best. I must admit I was never keen on Diana, I dont like simpering women. In an ideal world he should have married Camilla from the get go

[sp1814]

TTT

You wrote earlier:

//sp, do you wear your ignorance like a badge. She became a Queen the same time as the King became the King, on the passing of the former Queen.//

Her title is Queen Consort. When addressing her directly you refer to her a ‘Queen’ - but Charles has made it clear that he wishes for her to hold the title Queen after the coronation.

I could be wrong, but if I am, then sinus Buckingham Palace and o figure they know.

Also - the Queen Consort thing…it’s not related to Diana.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/g42860996/queen-consort-title-history-united-kingdom/

[davebro]

//In an ideal world he should have married Camilla from the get go//

Yes - and it's to his shame that he allowed himself to be coerced into marrying Diana.

[Rosetta]

Davebro, I dont think shame is the right word. I would guess there was a lot of pressure to do his duty and marry a young virgin of good birth,
an old fashioned tradition undoubtedly

[sp1814]

Rosetta

I suppose it was a different time.

Actually - now thinking of it…was it?

If Catherine had a series of ex-boyfriends, would she have been considered an appropriate partner for William?

[naomi24]

Not really, Dave. It was the way the system worked at the time and I think the tragedy that was Charles and Diana’s story was the catalyst that changed it for the better. He was expected to do something very few of us have to do - marry someone suitable out of duty. Love wasn’t a consideration. Camilla had ‘history’ and so ‘out of duty’, Charles married someone suitable - Diana. Unlike some, I wouldn’t condemn anyone to life in a loveless relationship simply because they are married - but then I’m not that pious. I know people are human, even if they are royal.

[bhg481]

naomi - you've summed up my thoughts exactly; I agree with everything you said. I like to think the Royal Family learnt from Charles and Diana and I always felt that that was why it took William so long to marry Catherine; I think he wanted to be very sure that she understood exactly what being a royal bride entailed and that he would have given her up rather than subject her to a life that would make her miserable. That makes me very sure that their marriage will last. I also believe that Camilla has earned the right to be called "Queen" and will make a much better consort than Diana would have done.

[Maydup]

The question is - Has she won my heart.

The answer is no.

I don’t particularly dislike her and I’m happy that Charles is happy, but she’s a bit bland for me.

[Ellipsis]

No, I don't have any will toward Camilla, but the whole Royal charade is anachronistic and not fit for the 21st Century. "Marrying someone suitable out of duty" - how did that turn out? Shambolic and tragic, unsurprisingly.

[Peter Pedant]

TTT was right -
no really
he said she wasnt a Queen consort or maitresse-en-titre, or Royal floozie

but Queen

[Peter Pedant]

naomi - you've summed up my thoughts exactly; I agree with everything you said.
moderator's pet

[naomi24]

That’s why it changed, ellipsis.

Many people seem to cling to the notion that he should have stayed with Diana but don’t forget she was unhappy too. Neither was capable of giving what the other needed.

[naomi24]

He will be now, PP. ;o)