Should Manchester's Football Clubs Ditch The Ship?

[mushroom25]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/19/abandon-ship-does-this-symbol-of-slavery-shame-manchester-and-its-football-clubs

although probably not visibly racist, are the badges of the big manchester clubs insensitive to modern thinking on the slave trade?

[bobbinwales]

I assumed it was based on manchester being a port ...the manchester ship canal ...which was used for more than slave trade.

[Ken4155]

Time we stopped all this nonsense. We ought not be held responsible for the deeds and misdeeds of our forebears.

[fripfrip]

NO.

[-SharonA-]

The slave trade for negroes is done. Why it's still being raked up, I guess it is troubling white peoples conscience.

[youngmafbog]

It is ridiculous. Started of coursse by The Guardian who have suddenly found they have links so my guess is they will now try to deflect on everyone else.

Of course I think we should rip up our roads, central heating and schools, I mean what did those slave owning Romans do for us?

And then there was the French, they invaded and enslaved many and as for the Chinese...

It would be far batter if these virtue signalling (usually white) useful idiots addressed the problems of modern slavery. Something we can do something about.

[Arksided]

Nope, I've never associated with slave trade just the shipping canal.

[Arksided]

*it

[zebo]

//The slave trade for negroes is done. Why it's still being raked up, I guess it is troubling white peoples conscience.//

Who sold the slaves to the slavers when they were bought from Africa, other Africans? White people alive today have no need for 'conscience' about old actions, no more than the Danes, Romans, French, Germans etc..

[ToraToraTora]

Perlease!

[-SharonA-]

Zebo, whether other Africans sold slaves or not, the removal of a ship is not gonna make one damn difference.

[perseverer]

Much of Manchester's wealth arose from cotton, whether in cotton mills, or later as the centre of cotton trading and like it or not cotton production involved slaves, so there is a case for acknowledging this, but that is not to say traditions like the ship on all sorts of Manchester emblems, not just the football badges should be ditched. (You would struggle to find any town or city in the UK which did not somehow benefit from slavery.)
What should be remembered is that when the UK did abolish slavery, compensation was paid, to the slave owners.

[Kardashev]

I do think as a society we are very busy looking around for historical things to flagellate ourselves for.

[douglas9401]

'Slavers' up here also means dribbles of drool.

Just saying.

[mushroom25]

// when the UK did abolish slavery, compensation was paid, to the slave owners. //

indeed, and much of that was invested in other industries. many railways in Britain were funded by slave owner compensation. would that be grounds to close the railways?

[DTCwordfan]

I thought a good proportion of the railways has already been closed or they are defunct.

[royfromaus]

Both should be Docked 50 points.

[brian j john]

Whatever next !
Demolish the Great Pyramid of Giza. built by slaves

[DTCwordfan]

Dismantle most of the United States....and hand them over to that slave-free empire called China.

[Gromit]

Yes, but not because of the cotton trade.
It is an old and out dated symbol from the past and has nowt to do with the present modern Manchester.
I have long objected to it before all the recent *** about Cotton and the slave trade, on the grounds that the City has moved on.

[sandyRoe]

Veering off topic a bit, were Man Utd once the Catholic Club in Manchester? Maybe founded by a Catholic youth club?