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Boris Johnson Planned To Privatise The Nhs, Selling It Off To America
When Corbyn revealed this, the then International Trade Secretary Liz Truss described the claims as a “conspiracy theory”, saying that Corbyn was “getting desperate and is out-and-out lying to the public about what these documents contain”.
It now turns out that it was the Tories who were lying to the public all along.
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It now turns out that it was the Tories who were lying to the public all along.
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People 'discuss' things all the time, but that's a very long way from the idea of actually trying to get privatisation past Parliament.
They probably both discussed the pluses and minuses of being known for their hair as much as their politics - it doesn't mean that a law compelling everyone to dye their hair blond was going to be the result!
They probably both discussed the pluses and minuses of being known for their hair as much as their politics - it doesn't mean that a law compelling everyone to dye their hair blond was going to be the result!
davebro - // It might work a damn sight better if it was privatised. //
One of the threads running through our current society is the fatuous Tory notion that services run better if they are turned into businesses.
The idea that private ownership of public utilities was a good idea has been proven to be utterly wrong for decades - the railways, gas, water, electricity, all of them needing to provide service, and only being concerned with profit.
If you make a service into a business, you immediately change its major focus from providing a service, to making money, and making money starts and ends with cutting services - as has been proven all the way down the line.
If as a company, you are beholden to your shareholders to make them money, then that is where your entire focus lies, and the notion of providing a service floats away into the distance.
Trying to provide utilities as profit-making entities has been nothing but disastrous.
The NHS is already top-heavy with suits making decisions based on money-saving as an obsession, and the idea that it should bow to shareholders would see the end of the notion of care at all, replaced by the need to generate profit.
One of the threads running through our current society is the fatuous Tory notion that services run better if they are turned into businesses.
The idea that private ownership of public utilities was a good idea has been proven to be utterly wrong for decades - the railways, gas, water, electricity, all of them needing to provide service, and only being concerned with profit.
If you make a service into a business, you immediately change its major focus from providing a service, to making money, and making money starts and ends with cutting services - as has been proven all the way down the line.
If as a company, you are beholden to your shareholders to make them money, then that is where your entire focus lies, and the notion of providing a service floats away into the distance.
Trying to provide utilities as profit-making entities has been nothing but disastrous.
The NHS is already top-heavy with suits making decisions based on money-saving as an obsession, and the idea that it should bow to shareholders would see the end of the notion of care at all, replaced by the need to generate profit.
I am sure if this is true other MSM such as the BBC would be hot on it.
yeah OK mainstream AB
If it isnt reported, then it doesnt exist
hey come on, there are things called Secrets, and as Miss Marple might say, " and do you think this mmight be one?"
Trivially true - the Great and Good have always been looking at privatisation to make the NHS more efficient
The difficulty is - - the great private health firms - opt for the money makers ( acute medicine, scanny things etc) and leave the losers ( psych and paeds)
twas ever thus ( Thatcher)
yeah OK mainstream AB
If it isnt reported, then it doesnt exist
hey come on, there are things called Secrets, and as Miss Marple might say, " and do you think this mmight be one?"
Trivially true - the Great and Good have always been looking at privatisation to make the NHS more efficient
The difficulty is - - the great private health firms - opt for the money makers ( acute medicine, scanny things etc) and leave the losers ( psych and paeds)
twas ever thus ( Thatcher)
That's not the way one privatises an NHS ! That'd cause nationwide strikes. No. One does it by subcontracting out everything possible, using agency medical staff, private hospitals, etc. etc. etc.
Clearly any wholesale discussions would be stringing someone along in order to form a good relationship.
Clearly any wholesale discussions would be stringing someone along in order to form a good relationship.
//It didn’t take long for the Tory Central Office to muster their troops, with the purpose of rubbishing this thread.//
Well maybe if you didnt write lies in the title it would help. He didnt plan anything, he (may have) had discussions. In case you are not aware one is actually starting to do something the other has no discernible outcome at that point.
Well maybe if you didnt write lies in the title it would help. He didnt plan anything, he (may have) had discussions. In case you are not aware one is actually starting to do something the other has no discernible outcome at that point.
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