Labour Getting Really Worried.

[ToraToraTora]

After a disappointing mid term lead after the mid term local elections clearly Labour are wondering how they are going to convert a meagre 9 point lead into a world record swing in the 2024 election. Ironically that was achieved by Tony Blair in 1997 but he only had to overturn a 20 seat majority and he had a 20 point lead. Overall it's looking like Labour cannot win. They may be thinking of changing the leader but I don't know who they could replace Sir Beer with. It's a conundrum for our Labour supporters.

[Zacs-Master]

30 Love

Mr Gulliver leads by 2 sets to 1.

[CoolBritannia]

The totally incompetent Labour 'party' is totally finished.

[Gromit]

We are in coalition territory for sure.

Starmer is pretty secure, not sure the same can be said about Sunak - Patel has already started to angle to take over from him.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/13/priti-patel-will-blame-local-election-losses-on-tory-leadership-in-speech

[ToraToraTora]

Sunak is there at least until the GE gromit, we've done enough shenanigans in that area. You may be right with the Coalition, probably Lib-Lab pact part deux! The problem is that the Lib-non dems will be weary of what it did to them last time they got into bed with another party, 55 seats became 8! They may not have enough to give Labour a majority anyway.

[Gromit]

SNP will still get the most MPs in the Westminster election, so a 3 way anti Conservative coalition looks probable.

[youngmafbog]

And that would be worse than an outright labour win.

Absolutely nothing would get done.

[Zacs-Master]

Given the general incompetence of MPs, them doing nothing sounds quite attractive.

[Gromit]

Ymb,
Just my opinion but Cameron 2010-2015 in coalition achieved far more than all the other leaders 2015 to present.
Cameron won a majority in 2015 GE so the voting public approved.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "Cameron won a majority in 2015 GE so the voting public approved." - he won because he was forced by Farage to promise a Brexit referendum. You know the rest.....

[douglas9401]

Patel's not all bad, remarkable cheekbones. :-)

[Gromit]

^ But no backbone.

[Old_Geezer]

Their main weakness is surely a leader who wants a closer relationship with the unelected elite we managed to (more or less) get away from.

[ToraToraTora]

I love it when lefties like gromit talk about backbone! Hilarious!

[tomus42]

Do you realise that in trying to outdo gulliver you just look as bad as him/her?

[JimF]

"SNP will still get the most MPs in the Westminster election, so a 3 way anti Conservative coalition looks probable."

The SNP would not join such a coalition without an absolute guarantee of another independence referendum.

[Gromit]

JimF,
Everyone thought a Conservatives and Lib Dems alluance not conceivable, until it happened.
Labour and the SNP hate each other - but they hate the Conservatives more. So don’t rule it out too quickly.

[JimF]

I didn't say I'd ruled it out.

[ichkeria]

There won’t be a Labour SNP alliance.
I think you can very much rule it out.
Labour would have to do very badly indeed to need the sort of seat numbers the SNP might still have.

It isn’t “midterm” of course as I keep saying.

[youngmafbog]

//Just my opinion but Cameron 2010-2015 in coalition achieved far more than all the other leaders 2015 to present.//

Possibly, but look what it did to the Lib Dems (wrongly in my view). I think they may think long and hard before a coalition, perhaps offer support so Labour could form a minority Government if they had enough?

It would be quite amusing though, a lefty alliance led by Sir Ed Davy and Sir Kier Starmer, meanwhile its plain old Rishi on the Tory side!

[10ClarionSt]

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much"

Methinks that applies to TTT with this post.