So Lets Shaft Our Farmers.....
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At the Daily Mail it appears.
Didnt take long.
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Didnt take long.
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I can't say I find myself surprised when my own comments on Johnson are roundly dismissed. But there's something almost disheartening about seeing someone like Barmaid give a measured critique, from a position of obvious reluctance and even regret, and it get the same treatment. A life-long Conservative, a clear Johnson supporter, someone with plenty of sympathy for the circumstances of his early leadership -- and, most relevantly, a long-time and well-respected member of this site.
One account of someone saying things went on as 'normal' is hardly explosive stuff. There has been no evidence produced to suggest that this 'normal' stuff wasn't believed to comply with the regulations passed. A regular merting is just that, nothing more. And so while folk may suspect individuals of lying, no real evidence has been presented. It is all opinion.
I have mentioned before that regardless of what went on at these meetings, it had zero bearing on the experiences of others elsewhere. Those misfortunes would occur anyway. One can take issue with the goverment's strategies; masks, lockdowns, distancing, etc., but that is a seperate issue. Indeed it is clear that those making accusations of Boris were either unaware of the emotional turmoil they may cause those who had, had such bad experiences, or they were so determined to bring down someone who had not capitulated to their views that they just didn't care. The situation remains that the trouble they generated is down purely to their speculation, and the public should note what their politicians' real aims are, and what democracy means to politicians in general.
I have mentioned before that regardless of what went on at these meetings, it had zero bearing on the experiences of others elsewhere. Those misfortunes would occur anyway. One can take issue with the goverment's strategies; masks, lockdowns, distancing, etc., but that is a seperate issue. Indeed it is clear that those making accusations of Boris were either unaware of the emotional turmoil they may cause those who had, had such bad experiences, or they were so determined to bring down someone who had not capitulated to their views that they just didn't care. The situation remains that the trouble they generated is down purely to their speculation, and the public should note what their politicians' real aims are, and what democracy means to politicians in general.
the penalty would only kick in if the house votes to apply it and then after that if johnson returns to parliament... he has violated the rules of parliament by deliberately misleading the house and so the penalties only really apply in parliament
Old Geezer
Boris johnson without doubt knew what the rules actually were and was at present at events when they were not being followed... he also demonstrably lied to the house of commons about the advice he received concerning their legality
Old Geezer
Boris johnson without doubt knew what the rules actually were and was at present at events when they were not being followed... he also demonstrably lied to the house of commons about the advice he received concerning their legality
