Climate Latest....it's Going To Get Hotter....and Colder....!

[ToraToraTora]

On the one hand we have heatwaves....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220
..on the other we have the collapse of the Gulf stream which will make it much cooler in Western Europe.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66289494
..so would they cancel each other out ?

[lankeela]

After the sun the rain, after the rain the sun, this is the way of life, till the earth be done!

[retrocop]

Amen

[ClareTG0ld]

Pack it up guys, go home, apparently a snappy poem is all that's needed to understand the complex dynamical system that is the Earth's climate and how it's influenced by the changing composition of the atmosphere.

[ToraToraTora]

I was talking to Trigger the other day in the Nags Head and he said it's all to do with Al Pacino or something.

[ClareTG0ld]

What do you expect from a guy who starred in Heat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_(1995_film)

[piggynose]

10.44 wasn't trigger Roy Rogers horse?

[youngmafbog]

//Pack it up guys, go home//

Bet you would like that, silence and cancel your critics eh?

[10ClarionSt]

The Earth is still warming up from the last ice age. It's natural. It's what it does. The last 20 years? Absolutely nothing in terms of the age of this planet. How is anyone going to stop Chlamydomonas Nivalis, which is present in 50% of the worlds' ice and will eventually melt the lot of it. No-one knows how to stop it. That could be one factor in the cooling of the Gulf Stream, as the melting, cooler water from the North, meets the warmer water from the South and pushes the warmer water deep into the ocean.

[ClareTG0ld]

// Bet you would like that, silence and cancel your critics eh? //

Oh absolutely. The silenced-er the better. Frankly only I should ever be allowed to say anything at all, since after all I'm always 100% right on everything.

[Old_Geezer]

Then you should move to the left.

[ClareTG0ld]

Pretty sure people on AB would wonder how much further to the left it's possible for me to move :P

[dave50]

I don't care about climate change at all.

[tommy39]

yeah and acid rain,no trees left,ozone layer geting bigger "not",coal
gov see taxes,taxes and more taxes to stop it

[ToraToraTora]

I don't often agree with 10cs but he's bang on here.

[tomus42]

It's probably best to ignore the vast majority of scientists on this issue and do your own research (ie watch a few videos on YouTube).

No-one knows what's going to happen as regards the gulf stream. The current thinking is that it will break down at some point as a result of global warming but they have no idea when. I'd personally rather cope with rising temperatures than suddenly plunging ones.

[jourdain2]

The climate changes. It always has done. Yes, it behoves us to limit plundering the Earth's resources and increasing population & pollution - but that's it. We can't stop our planet from changing as it wishes. We can only work to mitigate effects.
28th August, 1663 - deep frost decimated UK harvests & caused starvation. Not a lot of petrol about then. Then there was the mini ice-age etc., etc..
Prepare for change should be the motto i.m.o..

[royfromaus]

We're at Boiling Point!

[ToraToraTora]

10cs: "How is anyone going to stop Chlamydomonas Nivalis" - sounds painful!

[ClareTG0ld]

What's notable about 10CS's comments is how lacking they are in any kind of substance whatsoever. Also, they lack any kind of inquisitiveness, or urgency to learn.

The most important point to make is that, to the extent that Climate Change is natural, it is precisely because we were trying to learn and understand this point that we discovered our own impact on it. Yes, the Climate can, and does, change naturally over time. No, the recent period of warming is *not* because of "the last Ice Age". It is more rapid than can be accounted for by that effect. It's a clear signal on top of it. And it can be traced to the human impact.

It's unequivocal at this point. We can affect the climate. We already have done. And we will continue to do so unless, and until, people stop sticking their heads in the sand.

[ClareTG0ld]

See, for example, this figure (note that it's just a slightly cartoonish visualisation of data from sources given below):

https://xkcd.com/1732/

https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/9/367/2013/cp-9-367-2013.html

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1228026

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10915

The "it's natural" explanation is, perhaps, comforting. But it fails to explain the observations of recent temperature changes.