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Assange Extradition Fiasco Nearing An End
Any day now Assange could be put on a plane to the US to face charges of spying (amongst other things).
In the DM article below, the writer points out that Assange’s extradition would be an outrage.
He faces absurd charges of spying, when he never spied. His crime was to embarrass the US government by selectively releasing information that Washington had tried and failed to keep secret. I do not think this is a crime, here or there.
This topic has been discussed on AB before, and as I said I don’t care who you are but if you go around murdering people (as the US was revealed to be doing in the Wikileaks documents), you can’t expect those who expose you for your criminal activity to be locked up.
Subsequent information (not via Wikileaks), has revealed that the US was actively considering murdering Assange.
If Assange is indeed extradited to the US, this will be a shameful event, condoned by the British establishment.
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In the DM article below, the writer points out that Assange’s extradition would be an outrage.
He faces absurd charges of spying, when he never spied. His crime was to embarrass the US government by selectively releasing information that Washington had tried and failed to keep secret. I do not think this is a crime, here or there.
This topic has been discussed on AB before, and as I said I don’t care who you are but if you go around murdering people (as the US was revealed to be doing in the Wikileaks documents), you can’t expect those who expose you for your criminal activity to be locked up.
Subsequent information (not via Wikileaks), has revealed that the US was actively considering murdering Assange.
If Assange is indeed extradited to the US, this will be a shameful event, condoned by the British establishment.
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//Assange regards Russia as a safe place from the CIA.//
I wonder why he thinks he needs a safe place from the CIA then?.
Ironic that we sent our n'er do wells to the Southern hemisphere once and the Aussie government , now, don't seem to give two figs about their criminals being dealt with on any one else's shores but their own. I think they have the right idea.
I wonder why he thinks he needs a safe place from the CIA then?.
Ironic that we sent our n'er do wells to the Southern hemisphere once and the Aussie government , now, don't seem to give two figs about their criminals being dealt with on any one else's shores but their own. I think they have the right idea.
'Never has the wrath and petulance of the American government been focused so relentlessly on a breach of official secrecy. The pursuit of Julian Assange is in its 14th year, as the U.S. continues trying to extradite him from London to stand trial for helping the world’s most powerful news organizations publish U.S. diplomatic and military intelligence in sweeping defiance of secrecy protocols. Assange, convicted of nothing, has been behind bars in Britain since 2019, when he was evicted from the Ecuadorian embassy where he had sheltered for seven years.
The data leaks for which three presidential administrations have now pursued Assange took place in 2010, and while his treatment has been routinely denounced by press advocates worldwide, the media have yet to address a fundamental question, one that they are uniquely qualified to answer: What did the leaks actually do? Did the material that Assange’s anti-secrecy organization, WikiLeaks, made public do damage to U.S. national interests commensurate with the fury they provoked?
Or did the leaks, as his supporters claim, expose military wrongdoing that deserved exposure and, thanks to the release of reports from U.S. diplomats posted abroad, offer people worldwide valuable insight into what their own governments were doing that they might never have learned otherwise?'
San Francisco Chronicle
The data leaks for which three presidential administrations have now pursued Assange took place in 2010, and while his treatment has been routinely denounced by press advocates worldwide, the media have yet to address a fundamental question, one that they are uniquely qualified to answer: What did the leaks actually do? Did the material that Assange’s anti-secrecy organization, WikiLeaks, made public do damage to U.S. national interests commensurate with the fury they provoked?
Or did the leaks, as his supporters claim, expose military wrongdoing that deserved exposure and, thanks to the release of reports from U.S. diplomats posted abroad, offer people worldwide valuable insight into what their own governments were doing that they might never have learned otherwise?'
San Francisco Chronicle
Assange, convicted of nothing,
that is why they wish to extradite him: in order to stand trial. You dont extradite convicts....this shows the hack ( US or not) is talking out of his arriss
Look, if you are going to be a gadfly - leaking here and there, then you have to take the consequences - which involves extradition to the country you are irritating the most
that is why they wish to extradite him: in order to stand trial. You dont extradite convicts....this shows the hack ( US or not) is talking out of his arriss
Look, if you are going to be a gadfly - leaking here and there, then you have to take the consequences - which involves extradition to the country you are irritating the most
//Again Khandro, he incarcerated himself in the Equadorian Embassy, nobody forced him there or made him stay//
Indeed he did. Such is the narcissistic nature of this character that he skipped his bail to hole up in the embassy. Some of his friends, who had provided sureties to secure his release on bail, forfeited £240,000. His hosts in the Embassy, who had provided him with sanctuary, granting him asylum and finally Ecuadorian citizenship in order to shield him from the authorities in Sweden where he faced allegations of serious sexual offences, eventually wearied of him. The government in Australia, where he was born, washed their hands of him, stating they would not seek to intervene in international proceedings.
Everything you read that originates from Julian Assange or his supporters paints him as the victim of some huge, global conspiracy against him. There is no conspiracy. His current situation and his treatment over the past ten years or so have been brought on entirely by his behaviour. I don't blame the USA for wanting to bring him to justice. I only wish the UK authorities would be more robust when dealing with people who think they have a God given right to disclose restricted and confidential information.
Indeed he did. Such is the narcissistic nature of this character that he skipped his bail to hole up in the embassy. Some of his friends, who had provided sureties to secure his release on bail, forfeited £240,000. His hosts in the Embassy, who had provided him with sanctuary, granting him asylum and finally Ecuadorian citizenship in order to shield him from the authorities in Sweden where he faced allegations of serious sexual offences, eventually wearied of him. The government in Australia, where he was born, washed their hands of him, stating they would not seek to intervene in international proceedings.
Everything you read that originates from Julian Assange or his supporters paints him as the victim of some huge, global conspiracy against him. There is no conspiracy. His current situation and his treatment over the past ten years or so have been brought on entirely by his behaviour. I don't blame the USA for wanting to bring him to justice. I only wish the UK authorities would be more robust when dealing with people who think they have a God given right to disclose restricted and confidential information.
NJ Julian Assange became an Ecuadorian citizen on December in 2017, why should the Australian government be concerned further?
//..shield him from the authorities in Sweden where he faced allegations of serious sexual offences, //
Specious trumped-up charges which the Swedish authorities discontinued in 2019 after an investigation into a rape allegation after a review of the evidence.
and do be careful you don't fall off your high horse.
John 8:7 KJV
//..shield him from the authorities in Sweden where he faced allegations of serious sexual offences, //
Specious trumped-up charges which the Swedish authorities discontinued in 2019 after an investigation into a rape allegation after a review of the evidence.
and do be careful you don't fall off your high horse.
John 8:7 KJV
retro; //Khandro
You support Ukraine as most of us do. Would you feel so benevolent and ambivalent if the likes of Assange leaked President Zelensky's plans about his next drone strikes on the Russian Black Sea fleet?//
Come off it! ........ are you making a comparison between divulging the inhuman treatment of prisoners (none of whom had been given a fair trial btw) in Guantanamo, & the release of strategic information about planned attacks in the Ukraine war?
You support Ukraine as most of us do. Would you feel so benevolent and ambivalent if the likes of Assange leaked President Zelensky's plans about his next drone strikes on the Russian Black Sea fleet?//
Come off it! ........ are you making a comparison between divulging the inhuman treatment of prisoners (none of whom had been given a fair trial btw) in Guantanamo, & the release of strategic information about planned attacks in the Ukraine war?
if the likes of Assange leaked President Zelensky's plans about his next drone strikes
in contrast in London
Couzens the murderer reset his phone 40 mins before a police raid, and it is thought he was warned....
he was the one that 'flashed' at the arresting police lady wasnt he? - oh lardy dah - the things they do in London
in contrast in London
Couzens the murderer reset his phone 40 mins before a police raid, and it is thought he was warned....
he was the one that 'flashed' at the arresting police lady wasnt he? - oh lardy dah - the things they do in London
//NJ Julian Assange became an Ecuadorian citizen on December in 2017, why should the Australian government be concerned further?//
Well they possibly have greater justification to ensure his fair treatment that you obviously do. He retained his Australian citizenship when he was granted that from Ecuador - which is just as well since he was stripped of his Ecuadorian citizenship in 2021.
//Specious trumped-up charges..//
Never in the field of human justice have so many specious and trumped up charges been laid against one individual with no cause. I had a friend who once saw his football team, Queens Park Rangers, lose at home 6-0. "Six of the luckiest goals I've ever seen" he said with a straight face. I guess Mr Assange is just unlucky.
Well they possibly have greater justification to ensure his fair treatment that you obviously do. He retained his Australian citizenship when he was granted that from Ecuador - which is just as well since he was stripped of his Ecuadorian citizenship in 2021.
//Specious trumped-up charges..//
Never in the field of human justice have so many specious and trumped up charges been laid against one individual with no cause. I had a friend who once saw his football team, Queens Park Rangers, lose at home 6-0. "Six of the luckiest goals I've ever seen" he said with a straight face. I guess Mr Assange is just unlucky.
Is there a danger that a trial of Assange in the US could be counter productive?
He will have a platform to repeat the allegations in the leaks, and that will be widely covered by the US news press and TV. Instead of putting a lid on the leaks, it could open up a whole new can of worms.
Not to mention that the US Intelligence agencies charged with keeping the country’s secrets, was so easily breached. Did the heads of those agencies who managed to lose the secrets face charges of negligence or lose their jobs or be demoted?
He will have a platform to repeat the allegations in the leaks, and that will be widely covered by the US news press and TV. Instead of putting a lid on the leaks, it could open up a whole new can of worms.
Not to mention that the US Intelligence agencies charged with keeping the country’s secrets, was so easily breached. Did the heads of those agencies who managed to lose the secrets face charges of negligence or lose their jobs or be demoted?
N.J. Amnesty International's take on it & they give full support;
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I have no time at all for Assange.
BUT, I am getting more and more tired of the one sided 'special relationship' .
Time to make a stand and say NO to them, they wouldn't extradite the woman that killed one of our motorcycling young people. Tell the US to do one.
And then lock Assange up and throw away the key.
BUT, I am getting more and more tired of the one sided 'special relationship' .
Time to make a stand and say NO to them, they wouldn't extradite the woman that killed one of our motorcycling young people. Tell the US to do one.
And then lock Assange up and throw away the key.
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