Wetherspoons.

[gulliver1]

Tim Martin is to receive a Knighthood in the New Years Honours.For services to business And Brexit..OMG they are giving these knighthoods away.

[newmodarmy]

gulliver at  9:59 said //.But in june of this year he announced that the Price of a pint could reach £8 or even £10 in his pubs//

 Now, this is where a link would help- but of course you won't find one because you got the wrong end of the stick, gulliver.

This is what the Mirror actually said:

When questioned about the possibility of one day of the price reaching £10, he responded: “Andrew there are no limits.”

One day. 2050?  

Anyway, you and Teacake can't have it both ways. One accusing Tim Martin of selling cheap booze leading to alcoholism, and the other talking about beer being watered down and prices rising to £10 a pint in his pubs

[nicebloke1]

12.23 Like I say I have an opinion on Tim Martin that you don't obviously agree with, well thats tuff. But I will stick to the subject and not follow up with being rude!! Its news not chatter bank, so you will have to be angry on your own

[nicebloke1]

12.31 Would you please address me by my AB name. Many thanks.

[gulliver1]

Tim Martin admits that after backing Brexit .The UKs trade is down, growth has suffered and there are labour and skills shortages across the the economy.Martin also admits Brexit was just not done properly and now feels let down by his mate Boris and also Liz Truss.For a start he says Boris just didn't have a clue what he wanted ..he didn't have any plan whatsoever.. and  reacted to events ..It was all vacuous PR .

[rockyracoon]

Makes you wonder why they want to give him a Knighthood, eh?

[gulliver1]

Rocky 13 17 The reason is the Cons are in Dire Straits ..very desperate. They want the likes of Tim Martin back on their side for the General Election that is approaching . Their theory is... any one we conned into helping us win Brexit may be able to help us win the GE.

[retrocop]

Have you a link to that hypothisis @1331 gulliver?

[gulliver1]

When you think about it, who could have possibly realised that getting rid of 188,000 people from abroad who did the jobs in the UK that the Brits would not do.... would leave the UK with a workforce that was 188,000 short.🤣.

[Roobaba]

New Judge 'It has brought visitors to a town which, it has to be said, has not got much going for it (apart from being the terminus of the High Speed rail service from London).'

So.. referring to Ramsgate, 'It (Wetherspoons) has brought visitors'.. really? I don't know of many people who'd visit a town because of its 'cheap booze' drinking establishment,
especially one as ubiquitous (read 'boring') McD, KFC etc.

More to the point.. I know not of your location but what
right do you have to denigrate Ramsgate, a Kent seaside
town with many attractions and character, a lovely town!

What sayeth those here who wish to dish the dirt on..
https://www.ilivehere.co.uk
 

[Roobaba]

gulliver1 'who could have possibly realised that getting rid of 188,000 people from abroad who did the jobs in the UK that the Brits would not do.... would leave the UK with a workforce that was 188,000 short.'

That must count as another B'exit benefit..? Good one..!

[gulliver1]

And yet another useless Ducker that Tim Martin had faith in was Nigel Farage. Who himself after all the campaigning and promoting of Brexit has now ducked out and also admits Brexit has failed and says it was mismanaged .But once again it is not his fault.

[newmodarmy]

"   getting rid of 188,000 people from abroad who did the jobs in the UK that the Brits would not do"

 

Did you get that from Hymie's mate Phil, gulliver.

Have you got a link to support this claim or other evidence that people were kicked out against their will? Or did you make it up?  Or have you got the wrong end of the stick yet again?

[New Judge]

“I suppose Tim Martin will feel very much at home when he and the other Lords are wining and dining at Westminister..."

"Cheap food and drinks"...... At tax payers expense of course.”

As Mr Martin is being given a Knighthood rather than being elevated to the Peerage, he will not, as you suggest, have  access to Westminster and its plentiful victuals.

"If Tim Martin is as  alleged ... £800 million in debt he will not be paying his suppliers then ?."

He is not personally debt. His business (like many others of all shapes and sizes) has debts. Only if it defaults on those debts will the business in jeopardy.

"Martin promised to slash the price of beer to an unbelievable price ."

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/news/2023/12/january-sale

"Martin Says, all pubs are struggling at the moment and are reducing the strength of their beer to avoid vat."

"Few pubs brew their own beer (and Wetherspoons certainly don’t). Whoever reduces the alcohol content, they will not avoid VAT, only the excise duty."

"How can I serve a free pint with a chicken tika masala  on the tuesday curry night without you"

Thursday night is curry night in Wetherspoons. Tuesday is steak night. But you can’t be expected to know that since you don’t live here.

So, from the above, we can summise that you don't understand the difference between corporate and personal debt; you don't understand the difference between a Peerage and a Knighthood; you don't understand the difference between VAT and Excise Duty; you don't understand who puts alcohol into beer and you don't understand how Mr Martin's pubs operate. Other than that, spot on.

[naomi24]

NJ, if I could give you best answer for that I would.  You really made me laugh.  😂

[retrocop]

Great NJ. Talk about shot down in flames. What an idiot.

[New Judge]

"So.. referring to Ramsgate, 'It (Wetherspoons) has brought visitors'.. really? I don't know of many people who'd visit a town because of its 'cheap booze' drinking establishment,"

Wetherspoons does bring people in to Ramsgate. Go to the Royal Victoria Pavillion and speak to people there. They don’t all live locally. Thanet is not blessed with many towns where it’s possible to have a pleasant evening in a pub. If you live between Ramsgate and Margate or Ramsgate and Deal there is not much in the way of hospitality in either direction. Inland is even worse. Ramsgate has no other establishments that would encourage people to especially visit apart from perhaps the Thai Orchid on Westcliff Arcade and A La Turka on Harbour Parade (opposite Wethers). The new development between there and the tunnels may see some more opening but I doubt it as the rent and business rates are likely to be excessive.

"..what right do you have to denigrate Ramsgate, a Kent seaside town with many attractions and character, a lovely town!"

I’m not denigrating Ramsgate. It is indeed a lovely town with some superb architecture (the Royal Victoria Pavilion and its railway station amongst it) and interesting history. But like many coastal towns in the UK it really doesn’t have much going for it. Many of the town centre premises lie empty and the stretch of King Street from Harbour Street to Hereson Road looks like the mock villages which paratroopers use for training in house to house combat. I struggle to identify the “many attractions” you mention. Apart from the Wartime Tunnels, which are superb, and a fine beach, there is nothing much else to attract visitors. There is no funfair, no open top bus tours, a pier that is only really a breakwater, and at night the town centre and harbourfront areas are like the “Marie Celeste”. But having a spacious, well run pub that served decent food all day and is situated virtually on the beach may well determine where people spend their time. They wouldn’t necessarily choose to go there just because of that, but it may sway them to go there rather than elsewhere.

[newmodarmy]

   "The reason is the Cons are in Dire Straits "

Not true-  David Knoppler is a member of the South Devon Alliance and recently stood for election, and Mark Knoppler has worked with the Unite Trade Union who support Labour

[ynnafymmi]

@16.26.You and i arent friends NJ,but i would say that that is the best post of the year.BA gulliver?

[gulliver1]

Naomi 16.28 NJ, if I could give you best answer for that I would.

But you can't can you Naomi. But I can .. but I'm  not going to🤣lol.

[gulliver1]

 16.45 YFM.. I am afraid The Con Crony Club has rubbed off on me.. and I only reward Cronies who have helped me. and at this moment in time I feel like I have the power of an AB Mod at my fingertips.🤣 So the answer is No 🤣