If The Conservatives Lose The Next General Election...

[sp1814]

...who would be your preferred choice to lead the party, and why?

 

 

[davebro3]

this is NOT news

[sp1814]

Thanks davebro3 - you're probably right, as the question is asking for opinions based on current events, but if the Ed decides this should be better placed in another section, I'll go with that decision.

[davebro3]

I'm not "probably" right - I'm right!

[ichkeria]

It has more of a place here than some of the stuff: as for the answer to the question: I don't really know but I fear the worst.

[davebro3]

The Tories have a leader - I would see no reason for change unless he decides not to continue in that role.

[Hopkirk]

The one that speaks the most sense is Kemi Badenoch.

[ichkeria]

Sunak would not survive  a bad election defeat. Even if he wanted to, there would be a challenge to his leadership and that was the question 

[Hopkirk]

Rishi will probably flee to California 

[ichkeria]

The name that keeps coming to me is Kemi Badenoch: she is supposedly quite right wing but she seems pretty level-headed. If the tories do lose badly the chances are they'll panic and oust Sunak and go for someone unelectable. When Labour ditched Michael Foot they picked someone who was able to survive one defeat (ditto Corbyn tho in rather different circumstances). If there was a new leader they might need at least two goes at it: chances are they wouldn't get a third. But who knows: this is based on the assumption they'll lose badly this year. Maybe they won't, but you feel the chances of retaining an overall majority are slim in which case huge instability might follow.

[davebro3]

Hasn't there been too much swapping of the leadership already? If cowardy, cowardy Cameron had stayed and progressed Brexit as decided by the electorate he could still be PM & the Tories secure.

[Untitled]

my preference would be that the party splits. 

[Hymie]

davebro3 complained that this should not be in the news section; with Hopkirk’s one liner, it should be in the jokes section.

//The one that speaks the most sense is Kemi Badenoch//

[Peter Pedant]

if, sp ........IF   ????

[Peter Pedant]

This is not news - agreed

this is not IF - trolling there I am afraid

this is FUTURE NEWS - is there a category for that?

[Old_Geezer]

Well unless it's someone willing to listen to the will of the public and change the party direction one wonders if it is worth their effort.

 

Some decent options aren't interested, such as Jacob Rees-Mogg. A good choice would be to negate the previous error and invite Boris Johnson back. Aside from that, a natural choice would be Suella Braverman since she is one of the few still apparently supporting what needs to be done. Then there are others that would need pre-activity to make them eligible, such as David Frost. And if one is contemplating going that far, why not offer Nigel Farage membership and a safe seat to get him voted in as PM on the nod ?

 

[Deskdiary]

Kemi Badenoch or Suella Braverman.

They are both proper Tories - the Tory party haven't had a proper Tory leader for a very long time.

[ichkeria]

That of course would be the classic  mistake: assuming hard core party members and their followers speak for the electorate, a mistake Labour made most recently in 2015. That's what I meant when I said I feared the worst. "What needs to be done" bears uncomfortable undertones to a certain book by that old terrorist Lenin

[Untitled]

what does "proper toryism" consist of? it seems to me that the pantry is bare when it comes to actual ideas... 

the country would benefit in my view from a right wing party that had coherent ideas about what it thinks the country is and what it needs... the tories are often accused of being "left wing" by people with a very poor understanding of left wing ideas but the truth is that it is a party of nihilists. better for all of us if it splits and becomes something else.

[ichkeria]

Badenoch is socially conservative but strikes me as not quite as insane as Braverman who seems to me like a very unpleasant person indeed 

[gulliver1]

Davebro 07.11 "This is not news" It will be News later this year when the Tories are thrashed . ..It will be Big Big News.🤣