Telegraph Article Vanishes

[Khandro]

First thing this morning there was an excellent leading article on the web page of the Telegraph; 

'Multiculturalism is becoming a Trojan horse for Islamist domination.

The Michaela scandal is another clash between this hostile ideology and British values.'  by Nick Timothy.

 It has now gone without trace - can anyone think why this may have happened ?

[Untitled]

more vague language naomi. "saying no" sounds so reasonable doesn't it? except it's meaningless. 
 

you say that islam - all of it - is a threat to the west and imply that it is so grave the west must be protected or face islamic domination. if you really believe that then "saying no" isn't going to cut it is it because it won't remove the threat. what do you want to see done about it? be specific and name policies. 

[naomi24]

Untitled, what bit of 'no' don't you understand?

[Untitled]

"no" to what exactly? 

new mosques? 
new muslims? 
 

[naomi24]

Read my post.  No concessions to foibles and demands.

[Untitled]

is that really it naomi? because if you're going to use that kind of language about islam - ie saying that it's a threat everywhere you go, that all muslims want the same thing and have the same goal, that they're all out to take over - then "say no" isn't going to cut it is it? muslims will still be here after all and if your posts are to be believed then there's no way islam and the west can peacefully coexist... that requires more than a "no" and i reckon you want to go a good deal further than that 

[naomi24]

You 'reckon' a lot of things when you allow your imagination free rein, untitled.  That's no way to hold a sensible discussion.

[Untitled]

all you want is to "say no" then? that's why you call it a "battle to save the west" and insist that islam is a threat to every man woman and child in the country? come off it. at least newjudge is honest about what he wants! 

[naomi24]

Islam IS a threat to the west, untitled.  That is why we have to say 'no' to its foibles and demands.  No sharia courts, no face coverings in British courts, official buildings, banks or shops, no special concessions anywhere be it in our hospitals, schools, places of work or prisons.  In short no concessions.  None.

[Untitled]

ok but if you're right and we do all those things then the "threat" is still here isn't it... what do you want done about the actual threat itself? presumably if it's that serious you want something done about it, don't you? 

[naomi24]

I've told you what I want done about it.

[Untitled]

another question expertly swerved... i wonder why! 

[naomi24]

I've swerved nothing.  Tell me, untitled.  Why do you defend it?  Are you aware of its intentions?  Do you welcome the radicals who are preaching hatred here?  Do you like the way it treats women?  Do you even know how it treats women?  Why do you want it here?  Put your money where your mouth is and make your case for it.

[Khandro]

Untitled; Do you know what is meant by the term, 'Useful idiot' ?

[Untitled]

I have no case to make for islam as a religion... i am not an adherent and it is not a religion i admire or like. 
 

i do however know hatred when i see it. and i am very suspicious of those who seek to frame an entire demographic of people as a singular threat that must be fought. however much i dislike islam as a religion i see its followers as people first and muslims second.

yes khandro i know what a useful idiot is... unlike most people i have actually read a fair bit of lenin

[naomi24]

Yet again a coward's response.  Not me guv!  I'm surprised you don't have splinters in your bottom.  😂

[Untitled]

what do you want done about the muslim threat naomi? because if they really are a threat then "say no" isn't going to be enough. what do you actually want the uk government to do about the muslim menace as you see it? 
 

say it. don't be shy.

[naomi24]

You could read what I've said, untitled, but I guess it's difficult to focus when you're wobbling on that fence you always sit on.

[Untitled]

i guess we're leaving it there then ;) 

keep swerving naomi, you are awfully good at it

[naomi24]

Cone back when you're prepared to offer a case to support your argument, untitled.  Until then you don't have one.

[fender62]

the problems we have here are mirrored in eu countries, been a lot of murders and bombings, it would be a sizable graveyard of innocent people who did nothing wrong, and not to mention the rapes beatings intimidation, no go areas.. say anything and riots are triggered with looting arson of property etc, france a few months back streets like a battle ground, and they are more secular then us..