Why Is This A "Crisis"?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1860501/royal-navy-chiefs-iranian-spy-ship

Just sink the effing thing.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled has an odd way of attempting comparisons of incomparable things.

[ichkeria]

"13:37 I thought that was made pretty clear at 12:17. in 1918 the sides were more or less equal, any wally could see that war would not be over quickly. US v Iran is no contest in comparison."

All I saw was a few lines quoted ostensibly from a comedy show. As you say, no comparison 

[Ellipsis]

There's an obvious reason why the MV Behshad hasn't been sunk ...

> The 17,000-tonne MV Behshad, manned by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. is thought to have coordinated Friday's missile strike on the oil tanker Marlin Luanda.

"is thought to have coordinated" - there's a difference between an opinion and a fact, especially when it comes to "just sinking the effing thing" ... 

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "All I saw was a few lines quoted ostensibly from a comedy show. As you say, no comparison " - yes I was dealing with his post of 10:47. Which he then contradicted himself with the comedic but true quote from Blackadder at 10:50.

[Peter Pedant]

trouble is then Dave the news channels would be full of handwringing lefties!

as opposed to AB which is full of Dumb Blondes ! - calm down, calm down, I am referring SOLELY to the Boris icon

and being jokey and good humoured, as ever

[Peter Pedant]

"is thought to have coordinated" - ... an opinion and a fact, .... "just sinking the effing thing" ... 

problem with taking TTT seriously - - it never really pans out

Kapow them TTT!

[Untitled]

let me put it like this then 

"overwhelming escalation" sounds like a great idea until the other side doesn't do what you think it will do. a war with iran would make vietnam look like a picnic. 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled once again your anti western attitude gives you away. The US would disable Iran without ever going there. A lot has changed since Vietnam.

[Untitled]

it is not anti western to point out hubris. iran has a population of 90 million, an absolutely huge landmass and its economy is largely self sufficient... it produces most of its own steel and is a huge oil exporter. it has a huge arsenal of of missiles and drones. the idea that it would just be a walk in the park is fanciful. not to mention the impact it will have on europe if Iranian oil exports dry up.

[ToraToraTora]

They couldn't beat Saddam Hussein in 7 years. The US did it in a few weeks. Stop it with the Mullah fan boy BS.

[Untitled]

the war with saddam was a long time ago. iran did not have the infrastructure it does now. 
 

i despise the iranian regime and i will not tolerate being called a fan of it by an open white supremacist. i am of the opinion that a war with iran is not a good idea and i am not convinced that attacking them is a good way to avoid that. that is an acceptable and valid opinion even if you disagre with it.

[ToraToraTora]

ooo dear! I think we've found another string to the untitled bow! No one wants a war but if we don't do something they will think they can act with impunity and we'll get a war in the end anyway. Nip it in the bud now. Sink that ship and tell them any response and we'll sink all their ships.

[Untitled]

that seems far more likely to result in war than to stop it. 

[ToraToraTora]

for such a fan you have no idea how the Rab mind works do you?

[Untitled]

"the rab mind"? there is no such thing. i do know that wars have a habit of spiralling out of control and sinking a massive iranian warship is probably going to be seen as an act of war. 

[ToraToraTora]

...and not sinking it will enbolden them further.

[Untitled]

ok. let's imagine we sink it and iran doesn't say "oh sorry guv my bad" but starts hitting back. what do you honestly think is going to happen after that?

[youngmafbog]

Where is McCarthy when you need him?

[Untitled]

dead in the cold ground where he belongs, alone and unloved.

[Old_Geezer]

https://www.youtube.com/live/hLRFHixMqM8?si=8Nbhzp2d6ZrfQG8d

Maybe it isn't hitting the ship that is the aim ?