Now It's The Three Amigos!

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/third-labour-politician-spoken-to-over-meeting-at-centre-of-antisemitism-row-13071272

Tip of the iceberg?

[royfromaus]

I'ts always been the back of my mind that when Labour win the election, Starmer will be replaced.

[ToraToraTora]

I wonder if the fools that support Labour realise that they are now the party of Islamic activism.

[ToraToraTora]

....seems very quiet in lefty land this morning.

[youngmafbog]

IMHO these people have been using the labour Party to get started and get into positions of power(MP's Councillors) etc.  They couldnt do it on their own(much like the TINO's have hijacked the Conservative Party) but by aligning themselves to labour they could make inroads.

What has always struck me as odd is that all the 'Islamists', and yes I have known a fair few over the years including Imams, are far from left wing.  They are people that want to do well in life, own successful businesses and send their kids to private school or at least have a good education.

I would not be at all surprised if we soon see an Islamic Party (or similar) being formed where these people will gravitate and many of their views welcomed.

[jno]

"spoken to". They don't know if he even said anything yet, but they may decide to cancel him anyway.

[youngmafbog]

well even you favourite rag is talking about it jno

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/14/starmer-councillors-meeting-israel-comments-azhar-ali-rochdale-labour

[Stableford]

Kier needs to get a grip; all those Labour local councillors who are blatantly anti-Jewish need booting out too.  Drain the swamp.

[youngmafbog]

To be fair I think SKS is trying to.  It's not an easy task.

[jno]

I already posted that on another thread, ymb, that's where I read about it. But the idea that you not only have to keep your mouth shut, you have to lodge a protest when someone else doesn't, sounds pretty totalitarian to me. Nobody should be forced to talk.

[webbo3]

I said on another thread Labour will run out of candidates.

[Deskdiary]

Genuine question.

 

Why is it the left generally hate Jews so much?

 

I know they'll dress it up as not being anti-Jew but rather being anti-Israel and/or supporting Palestine, but this is mealy mouthed and not true as there is a real and clear anti-Jew large section on the left.

I'm not being wiful, I honestly don't get it.

[Pegasus16]

Deskdiary @ 18:33 Wed 14th 

'Why is it the left generally hate Jews so much?'

 

Very very good question and I don't get it either. There are many major terrible problems/conflicts in the world which don't seem to bother our western lefties, just seems like the Jews and Israel they get very agrressive about. I think the western left are very gullible very easily led individuals who are on 'auto-default, I must hate Jews'. They don't really understand the complex situation but need to grandstand.

 

Perhaps the western left could help and explain why they hate the Jews so much? (probably just some sort of racism).

[Pegasus16]

These gullible lefties pretent to be anti-fascist and anti far-right, but are anything but. They appear to support the most extreme far-right fascist hate and all the other hate, women, gays, and so on.

 

It is a mystery to me also !!!

[DTCwordfan]

because of the centuries-old tradition that Jewish folk make money out of usury....not necessarily true as I could give you one heart-warming story of my grandfather extending a loan to a young Jewish man, an evacuee in WW2, a £20 note, to allow him to set up his business down here.

The recipient, an eventual Hatton Garden jeweller of some note, never forgot, and my grandfather was able to buy some very good stones/'rocks' for my grandmother at near-cost off the wholesale market in Antwerp etc.

[Pegasus16]

Thanks, but still doesn't explain why the 'left' are on auto-default' that they must hate Jews.

[DTCwordfan]

because of the centuries-old tradition that Jewish folk make money out of usury....not necessarily true as I could give you one heart-warming story of my grandfather extending a loan to a young Jewish man, an evacuee in WW2, a £20 note, to allow him to set up his business down here.

The recipient, an eventual Hatton Garden jeweller of some note, never forgot, and my grandfather was able to buy some very good stones/'rocks' for my grandmother at near-cost off the wholesale market in Antwerp etc.

[DTCwordfan]

putting it bluntly, because the the people, the then working class, needed short term loans or pawning to bridge their financing - and who provided the service?

[Pegasus16]

Sorry to appear thick, so the left all hate the Jews and the state of Israel because of the loans and so on?

[Deskdiary]

One of the things I don't get...

 

Hamas hate, to the point of death, gay people, and Palestinians are entrenched with Hamas, and yet the left are supportive of them. In the recent Hamas/Palestinain protests there was a group who called themselves "Queers for Palestine". If they had the courage of their convictions there's a strong chance they'd be killed in Palestine because of a natural state of being gay.

 

If in left land they can't see the irony, I'd like to see "Queers for Palestine" take their chances over there rather than protest from a safe tolerant country like ours and see how'd they get on.

[DTCwordfan]

not all of them on the left as, of course, there were prudent folk - and then there were others offering such loans but, throughout Europe and the UK, a but the Jewish 'investors' did generate a reputation and, on a higher level, were seen to be prevalent in investment and commercial banking.