Reform Uk Have An Mp

[drmorgans]

 

Lee Anderson. Elected as a Tory but jumped ship when they suspended him because he wouldn't apologise for comments he made about Sadiq Khan:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68532602

 

[jno]

voters are always annoyed when someone they elect as a member of a party defects to another party; their democratic votes have been betrayed. Nobody voted for the Reform member Anderson. I'm inclined to think party-hopping should be forbidden and MPs should only do it before an election.

Still, Churchill bounced round the benches a bit.

[jourdain2]

Re O_G 14.29, and others, regarding illegal immigration.  Has anyone noted that the new 'right-wing' party in Portugal has done stupendously well in  the elections?  I believe that one idea is to create a new law making 'illegal residence in Portugal' - well, illegal?  It is a news comment that more or less drifted past me, but it struck me as a potential answer.  Whether it is or not - it was voted for.

[retrocop]

   // I believe that one idea is to create a new law making 'illegal residence in Portugal' - well, illegal?  //   

Unless the law in the UK has changed, mon cher, I was always bought up to understand ,as a little boy, that it was absolutely interdit,verboten , and taboo to attempt to enter a country without a passport and identification. I was terrified we would be arrested if we landed in Jersey without my parents having me on their passport.

I would of thought that would apply to 'so-called' asylum seekers rocking up on our shores in rubber boats.                                        

[jourdain2]

It doesn't seem to apply to all of them these days, though, does it? 

As a child I was, like you, raised to expect that you couldn't live here unless you satisfied all the residency requirements.  I always held my breath at Passport Control when going back and forth to France for example.

If we still have all these laws it beats me why we have these problems when they could be applied to send people back to a safe country like France.  Pressure of numbers I suppose.

[davebro3]

//voters are always annoyed when someone they elect as a member of a party defects to another party; their democratic votes have been betrayed. //

Maybe NOT the ones who didn't vote for him?

[fripfrip]

All you lefties can condemn Lee Anderson as much as you like,but my money is on him to be reelected at the next election because his constituents agree with him not only about Khan,but also about immigration,get your shilling on him he's well liked because he says what a lot of people think.

[ichkeria]

I don't care for him at all but I think it's Tory voters who won't like what he's done. It will be interesting to see if he can hang on to his seat. I suspect not but I'm not close enough to the voters there to know how likely that is.

[Ellipsis]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Togo]

Anderson said today …"like millions of people in this country, I feel like we are slowly giving our country away. We are giving away our way of life, allowing people to erase our history, giving up our streets to a minority of people who literally hate our way of life. We are allowing people into this country who will never integrate and adopt our British values. Parliament doesn’t seem to understand what many British people want, and frankly, some of them need to get out more. I made some remarks a few weeks back about the London Mayor, for which I was stripped of the whip from the Conservative Party. And let me be clear right now, that I will not apologise. It is no secret I have been talking to my friends in Reform for a while, and Reform UK has offered me the chance to speak out in Parliament on behalf of millions of people up and down the country who feel they are not being listened to… this may sound offensive to the liberal elite, but it is not offensive to my friends, my family, my constituency"

Which bits of that sound right wing or offensive to you? 

A All of it.
B None of it.
C Let me think, or ask my nan. 

He will be touring the so called red wall seats just like he did when Boris won them. He speaks their language, they trust him, he only left Labour because of the Corbynista swerve to communism and their embrace of islamist views. Just like the red wall voters did, just like millions of voters across the whole Country did. This is the moment when the little boy takes a finger out of the d1k3 and lets the flood of opinion sweep away the false barrier. Reform is needed. 
 

[Togo]

//It will be interesting to see if he can hang on to his seat.//

Indeed. Anderson has spent much time and effort gauging the reaction from his constituents and other colleagues and come to the conclusion that he has more support that opposition from them. He is indeed a weather vane politician and once upon a time they all were. Public opinion is fluid and the majority was always trusted, here in the UK, to decide what was best for the whole. That basic premise has been destroyed here by the 2 party see-saw, you scratch my back I scratch, yours arrangements that were hatched by Blair and his wicked henchmen. 

""It is not controversial to fight back in a culture war, Anderson said, who insisted concern about high levels of legal and illegal migration, failures by the police, and high levels of crime are not in any way controversial. “I cannot be a part of an organisation which stifles free speech, and many of my colleagues in that place, in the Conservative Party, do back me on this privately”.""

[THECORBYLOON]

Speaking in January, Lee Anderson described his now, new boss, as being, "a bit of a pound shop Nigel Farage."

He also said, 

"I think he needs to pipe down a little bit because if the unthinkable happens and next year, we do get a Labour government and Richard Tice is on his media platforms saying what a disaster ‘Starmergeddon’ and what a disaster the Labour Party are, I shall be reminding Mr Tice it was him that helped them get elected."

If Labour fformsthe next Government, and he retains his seat, will Lee Anderson be accepting he was partly responsible for that outcone?

[fripfrip]

Hear!Hear!

[Togo]

Andrew Brigden will be next. Another who knows where the pulse of a comatose, liberal coma induced, public is. 

[Togo]

Think on this. If everyone who voted Conservative at the last election (in the hope of getting a real Brexit done) voted for The Reform Party this time, then Reform would have an 80 seat majority. It can't of course happen. But if enough do, then it will be seismic. The Portugal voting results are referenced somewhere on this site, the Irish referendum vote is also another bell weather indication about the heartfelt feelings of many, many, ordinary citizens who say little but think a lot. Unlike many on here who say a lot without any obvious thought being employed.    

[jourdain2]

Well, from what I've been reading here (and other places - not on line) it would seem that opinion decrees that we either end up with a  Labour Govt.  with a huge majority, which is almost identical to the one we have only rather more extreme (to make  them seem  different) or a larger Labour vote which may take a majority of seats but is faced with a phalanx of Reform plus a minority of Tory seats to keep it under control.

It  won't happen of course with the system we have.  But I would not be surprised if Reform did end up with enough seats to hold a balance.  It'll all come out in the wash, but disillusioned Tory voters are numerous.  It's a matter of mathematics and constituency boundaries now.

[Old_Geezer]

Making illegal things illegal ? Seems common practice these days. Most, if not all laws of the form, "Somebody's-name Law", will be examples. Plus most so called "hate" laws. 

[ichkeria]

Andrew Bridgen didn't lsst long in the Laureance Fox party. So yes I suspect he'll be next if anyone.

"Reform UK has offered me the chance to speak out in Parliament on behalf of millions of people up and down the country"

Some mistake surely Mr Anderson: it was the voters of Ashfield who did that.

[Khandro]

If you want to know the dreadful implications hidden within this new legislation watch this. Stating true historical facts verified by their own Muslim sources will be a punishable offence;

[naomi24]

Khandro, can you give a synopsis of that please?   It's half an hour long - and I'm multi-tasking here as it is!

[retrocop]

naomi

In a nutshell it is a discussion about the concerns of an Islamic blasphemy law which could be enshrined and adopted by Labour into UK Law. An all party pamphlet has  been drawn up as a code of conduct regarding Islamophobia. The definitions are being pulled apart with many holes. i.e Islamophobia is racist etc whereas Islam is not a race. The main concern is Islamic blasphemy laws are bought in 'through the back door' . It highlights how we are kowtowing to Islam and mentions the our constitutional procedures are being eroded by Islam as demonstrated by the Speaker in the house 2 weeks ago. I found the discussion interesting. Glad I watched it but alot of what was discussed I think you already know. The final comment was the discussion these two men had just recorded would be llegal under any future possible legislation. Very small nutshell. A lot more was covered. Hope that assists you.