I'm Leaving On A Jet Plane....

[ToraToraTora]

...Don't know when I'll be back again...🎵

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68840441

Looks like the PM will be getting a bag of sand from Piers Morgan..

[ichkeria]

Ask Sky News that question 

[ichkeria]

The government will need to reassure people that it is safe: which will completely negate whatever deterrent factor there may be. Monty Python lives 

[youngmafbog]

No answer then.

[ToraToraTora]

Most don't give a rats April if it's safe they just want to stop the invasion. If the PM does that then he'll get a lot of appreciation.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "Thus is exactly what I have been saying: the government claims Rwanda is safe as I'm sure it largely is: but for this policy to have any hope of success then it relues in people thinking the opposite. Which is fundamentally ridiculous ;-)" - rubbish, this is not about safe/unsafe in reality. It's about what country would you rather be in? Rwanda, France et al or even stay in your own. If you come to illegally you willl be processed in Rwanda. Many may conclude that France et al may be a better bet or heaven forbid stay at hoe and save the dosh. We just want to stop the invasion.

[drmorgans]

 

What about the migrants using illegal means who think, there's a small chance I'll be sent to Rwanda. Or those that believe the people smugglers who tells them England's lovely, friendly and welcoming, this deportation chatter is carp.

 

[Togo]

Whilst the swill trough, that is the HoL, and the venal lawyers block our sensible attempts to deter the illegal transportation of potentially dangerous invaders to our home lands the eeyyoo has compunction about taking our prefered method up. There has been no criticism of this solution from our Eurovassals.

https://www.unhcr.org/rw/18777-european-union-increases-support-to-people-in-need-of-international-protection-with-additional-grant-of-e22-million-to-unhcr-to-operate-the-emergency-transit-mechanism-in-rwanda-until-2026.html

[Togo]

Has no compunction! 

[ToraToraTora]

The rest of Yerp is watching with interest. Do not be surprised if a range of similar schemes emerge. As usual UK will be the start of Europe fixing itself.

[douglas9401]

Project Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind blunders on with inept liars honing their limited skills at policy making and spaffing cash like a drunken sailor.

[Ellipsis]

> ie the illigals would consider any of the safe EUSSR countries would be better than Rwanda or even where they came from.

ie Rwanda isn't safe for those people ... thanks for the QED, Tora.

[ToraToraTora]

didn't say that it was unsafe Ellipsis, stop spinning.

[juliecarlstan]

Oh Babe I Hate to Go....

[mushroom25]

from the practical point of view, it's likely to be months, if not years before any jetplane takes off for Kigali. no airline will touch this, the civil servants who will handle it are likely to be told by their union that it's illegal and they must not touch it, not to mention delays occasioned by the issue of injunctions pending appeals, etc etc.

[ToraToraTora]

The RAF will do it.

[gulliver1]

They have got to find them first before they can get them on a plane. Approx  170,000 go missing in the UK every year.

[ToraToraTora]

Perhaps you can go with them gully...🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫

[drmorgans]

 

The Clash springs to mind, Should I stay, or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble, and if I stay, it will be double.

 

[Prudie]

I have read and seen all the Labour, lefties, subversives (you should have heard Martha thingy on R4 this morning) screech in horror about the cruelty, pointless, inhumanity of it all but not once have I personally seen any of them, including ABers,  come up with a satisfactory measure to deal with these boat arrivals.

What is the caring answer to it all then? Do nothing? Build more Travelodges??

[New Judge]

"If you come to illegally you willl be processed in Rwanda."

No no no, Tora. If the government was truthful (and that would be a novelty) it would read like this:

“Following the passing of the Prime Minister’s flagship Bill, If you arrive here in a rubber boat, there is an extremely slim chance that a handful of you might end up being sent to Rwanda. This will be after you have spent many tens of thousands of pounds of UK taxpayers’ money fighting your removal through the courts over a lengthy period, during which time the UK courts will rule that you cannot be forcibly detained. During this time you will be suitably fed, watered and housed in conditions that your lawyers will say do not reach the standards required by international law, but which will be a considerable improvement on your living conditions (in the mud under tarpaulins on the outskirts of Calais).  

 

Since the capacity for this African adventure is strictly limited (to about the number of you who arrive in a couple of days of decent weather) the overwhelming likelihood is that you will not be eligible for the scheme and for that we offer our heartfelt apologies. Your lawyers will no doubt advise you how to lodge a claim for compensation for your disappointment. Unfortunately places on the scheme will not be available to minors, so if you are in your mid-twenties but really don’t want to face the miniscule chance of being sent to Rwanda, simply say you are only fourteen when disembarking from the lifeboat or coastguard cutter which has seen you safely into Dover, and you’ll be troubled no further.”

The scheme is an absolute joke – and a very expensive one for UK taxpayers who may not see the funny side of it. In the very unlikely event that anybody is sent to Rwanda under its provisions it will not even scratch teh surface of the numbers arriving (more than 500 arrived over the last weekend) and it will serve as no deterrent to those still seeking to come here. They are not so stupid as the UK government would like us to think they (and we) are. They can do sums. Even if it was fully implemented (which is a very big “if”) they will know that the chances of them being mixed up in it would be miniscule. For people who are quite prepared to set off in small rubber boats to cross 22 miles in one of the world’s busiest shipping lanes, it is a similar chance to being drowned in the process, and one which they will be well prepared to take.

The only way to end this influx is to physically prevent these small boats from entering UK waters. Since neither this nor any other government is prepared to sanction this, we’re largely stuck with it. I just wish they’d be honest and not fanny around spending millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money on hare-brained schemes like this.