Mad Mullahs Ever More Desparate To Oppress Women

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/videos-show-iranian-women-being-snatched-from-the-streets-by-other-women-under-the-cover-of-war-with-israel-13122087

What do Muslim men find so threatening about women not dressed in a heavy duty tarp? I don't think the prophet gave any such orders did he?

[andy-hughes]

You are the one comparing them, I don't personally dignify any of them with some sort of arbitrary grading system, but if that assists your regular grinding about the Islamic apocalypse, who am I to think that sticking to the point of the debate might be a better use of our time.

[naomi24]

Andy Hughes, not so.  You said 'The Catholic Church remains a major offender in this area of operation', and that's what I responded to.  

[andy-hughes]

That's a statement of fact - it does not invite the creation of 'The Premier League Of Organisations Dedicated To Mysoginy'.

Thar was your sidetrack, and you appear committed to riding down it a while longer.

[naomi24]

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[ladybirder]

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[naomi24]

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[New Judge]

"In time they'll come to love our country and its freedoms."

Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Many of them have had more than enough time to do that and many of them want nothing to do with British culture, values or way of life. They want nothing other than to establish a Caliphate in the UK.

[ToraToraTora]

I see once again AH is bending over backwards to defend Islam by introducing a "well they are not the only ones" aspect! Comparing Islam and catholic attitides to women is like comparing a bicycle to an F1 car and saying well they both move forward so they must be identical! Perlease!

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // I see once again AH is bending over backwards to defend Islam by introducing a "well they are not the only ones" aspect! Comparing Islam and catholic attitides to women is like comparing a bicycle to an F1 car and saying well they both move forward so they must be identical! Perlease! //

I see that once again you have either not read my post at all, or you have read it and simply not understood it.

I said this -

// A major aspect of Arabic culture involves control of women by the evocation of supposed instruction from The Prophet Muhammad. 

As with any and all religions, those in power cherry pick the bits that they can twist into control of the faithful, in ways that perpetuates the power and control of the leadership. 

Since virtually every religion on the planet is under the exclusive control of men, it's not unexpected that they perpetuate that control with the subjugation of women.

It is front and centre in Islam, but let's not pretend that any more subtle control systems are any less abhorrent because they are more subtle in their control systems - the Catholic church remains a major offender in this area of operation. //

If you can see 'defence of Islam' anywhere in that, then you are, as usual, looking for something that is not there.

I made no 'comparison' of Catholicism and Islam whatsoever, you are perhaps encouraged by naomi's failed attempts to sidetrack the thread with that argument as well.

What I said was, Catholicism, and indeed any organised religion on the planet, is under the direction and control of men, to the detriment of women.

Once again, of you can see a defence of Islam in that, then you are clearly keener to look for a fight than you are to simply accept a basic point, which does not defend Islam in any way shape or form.

[ToraToraTora]

Perlease, as you well know AH you don't have to say it directly but your defense of Islam is becomming a standard feature. This time it takes the form of trying to merge their mysogyny with other religions. I can't help feeling that this kind of devotion is based on some form of personal affiliation. Is there any sort of connection you'd like to tell us about?

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Perlease, as you well know AH you don't have to say it directly but your defense of Islam is becomming a standard feature. This time it takes the form of trying to merge their mysogyny with other religions. I can't help feeling that this kind of devotion is based on some form of personal affiliation. Is there any sort of connection you'd like to tell us about? //

If you want to see something in my posts that is simply not there, I can't help you with that.

I have re-printed my post, I have explained what it means.

If you want to see something else, and attribute an attitude that is in your imagination, then that is a matter for you and you alone, there is no point in me continuing to argue with you.

If anyone else wishes to comment on my posts, I will be delighted to debate with them, but as far as I am concerned, this exchange is redundant, and I propose taking no further part in it.

[naomi24]

Andy Hughes.   I haven't attempted to sidetrack the thread.  You introduced another religion into the discussion. 

[ToraToraTora]

rubbish AH you are full of guano. I am no fan of any religion but you cannot equate Islamic mysogyny with any other religion unless you have some kind of vested interest.

[SparklyKid]

good.  ah does not debate.  just posts endless garbage.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // rubbish AH you are full of guano. I am no fan of any religion but you cannot equate Islamic mysogyny with any other religion unless you have some kind of vested interest. //

Re-read my post - I am not 'equating' anything.

[ToraToraTora]

I've never seen such devotion....

[DTCwordfan]

when it comes to understanding women and not repressing them, the large majority of the Mullahs are clueless and can be classified as berkas...

[andy-hughes]

Sparkly - // good.  ah does not debate.  just posts endless garbage. //

I clearly do debate, regularly, but there is no point in carrying on an exchange with TTT when he remains determined to miss the point I made, and turn into a point I did not make.

That's not debate, which is why I am not inclind to pursue it much further.

Your opinion is noted, as always, and ignored, as always.

If you have something constructive to say, then we can exchange some thoughts, if you simply want to be rude, then I will ignore you.

[andy-hughes]

DTC - // when it comes to understanding women and not repressing them, the large majority of the Mullahs are clueless and can be classified as berkas... //

I think Arab culture with regard to women, enmeshed as it is in the texts and beliefs of Islam, means that repression suits the majority of men in Arabic and Islamic countries.

The Mullahs simply perpetuate and enhance this attitude, because it continues to enable, and extend, their power.