Cameron Urges Bbc To Describe Hamas As Terrorist Organisation

[naomi24]

//The UK foreign secretary told the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg that the organisation should reconsider its guidelines in light of a video released by Hamas showing the British-Israeli hostage Nadav Popplewell, who the group said had died in Gaza.//

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/12/david-cameron-bbc-hamas-terrorist-group-hostage

 

Will the BBC listen?

[naomi24]

Yes it does, sandyRoe - but that doesn't negate the fact that Hamas are terrorists - and blood-thirsty barbarians to boot.  How anyone can deny that is beyond me.  

[ToraToraTora]

Incredible that sandyRoe supports the baby beheaders, rapists and murderers.

[sandyRoe]

The Contras in Nicaragua weren't classified as terrorists because they had the backing of powerful allies.  The British wouldn't have seen the French Resistance as terrorists, thought the Germans would have.

Freedom fighters are generally massively out gunned, face propaganda that depicts them as monsters, and know their struggle will either lead to an early grave of a life in prison.

[vulcan42]

The question remains, Whose freedom are they fighting for? they seem to treat their own people as bad as they treat their enemy.

[Mozz71]

Freedom Fighter also are underdogs banded together against an oppressive force or regime. We're the 1200 or so innocent Israeli citizens murdered in Oct 7 an oppressive force?

 

I don't support the IDF's murderous rampage through Gaza, but Hamas are not the plucky revolutionaries you seem to think they are.

[Mozz71]

God, I hate autocorrect and the lack of an edit option.

[naomi24]

sandyRoe, the 'bad press' Hamas gets isn't propaganda.

[Gromit]

Why doesn't call the people who killed him terrorists?

Perhaps its because we sell them the weapons that are used to kill civilians.

[retrocop]

        

//The British wouldn't have seen the French Resistance as terrorists, //

Perhaps because they weren't. Please detail where members of the French resistance beheaded babies and raped women at will!

[jourdain2]

'The Resistance' were most certainly NOT terrorists, sandyRoe. I've met the children of several and visited the designated cemetery near La Rochefoucauld with one of them - his father is carved (smashing machinery) on the monument.  I heard a lot of first-hand recounting of what the occupying Germans did - total barbarism sometimes - and how 'La Resistance' responded.  In the commune where I lived there was a bullet-riddled wall next to the cemetery where the Germans marched  suspected resistance members and slaughtered them.

Apologies for rant everyone. Britain knew that the Resistance were not terrorists.

[bednobs]

that's what sandyRoe is saying jourdain.

[naomi24]

The mere suggestion is ridiculous, jourdain.

[naomi24]

Bednobs, sandyRoe said the Germans would have regarded them as terrorists.  They wouldn't.  

[bednobs]

the way i read it he's not suggesting it at all.  

[webbo3]

They're not part of a regular army and are therefore terrorists.

[naomi24]

Bednobs, sandyRoe said 'the British wouldn't have seen the French Resistance as terrorists though[t] the Germans would have'.

[bednobs]

yes.  Therefore isnt he proving what he said at first "one man's terrorist is anothers freedom fighter"?

if the concept of terrorism existed back then (?) the british would have seen the FR as freedom fighters and the germans would have seen them as terrorists

[naomi24]

It's nonsense.  The Germans were occupying France.  They knew exactly what the French Resistance was - and they knew they weren't terrorists.  sandyRoe is intent of portraying Hamas as rather more worthy of respect than they are. 

[jourdain2]

We seem to be locked in a struggle over semantics. The Germans did not, I am sure from my conversations, see La Resistance as terrorists.  The Germans were the invaders, the Resistance were seen as stubborn pockets of, well, resistance - and quite frankly a d**m*d nuisance to be trodden on and cleared away. One elderly friend grew-up in a village just over a mile from the Vichy France border - the Germans were contemptuous.... and merciless if they caught anyone.

[Peter Pedant]

The Germans did not, I am sure from my conversations, see La Resistance as terrorists.

oo-la-la - that is a bit granco-german

Comete line ( famous for escaping airmen - escaping doctors ( my dad) they werent so interest in) lost on average one resistante for each returned airman

You might say - oh yeah ( mais oui) - they used to shoot them but they werent terrorists ( shot on sight)

You know in Poland 1939 ( er not part of France I agree, ) the Boy Scouts were declared a terrorist organisation ?

TIL about the Battalion Zośka, made up primarily of outlawed Polish boy scouts and girl scouts. They were responsible for the liberation of the Gęsiówka concentration camp from the Nazis in 1944. The rescued Jews went on to join these young scouts in their instrumental role in the Warsaw Uprising.