After The "Beergate" Nonsense...

[sp1814]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69063295

Toughts?

[davebro3]

Something that emerges here is that suspected crimes are dealt with differently by the various regional police forces. Maybe we should have a national force all working to the same agenda.

[DTCwordfan]

agree dave - my suspicion being that Murrell and the Queen N had/have the head honcho of Glasgow poliz in their back pocket?

[naomi24]

Boris was stitched up.  We all know that ... even those who say he wasn't.   And that says more about them than it says about him.

[sp1814]

davebro3

Seriously?

Could it because two different sets of circumstances were investigated by two different forces, who reached their decisions based on the facts of the case?

Johnson being guilty and Starmer innocent.

Remember - the police would've had much more information to go on than the right wing press would print...for their readers to make up their minds.

[sp1814]

Boris Johnson was not stitched up.

He stitched himself up by not being fit for office.

[davebro3]

//Johnson being guilty and Starmer innocent.//

They both attended get togethers that were proscribed by the covid rules. The cops / CPS decided they should be dealt with differently.

[naomi24]

Pathetic argument - but predictable.  

[naomi24]

^that to SP.

[Mozz71]

Boris wasn't stitched up, he screwed up. He was quite correctly prosecuted. I don't know the full details of Starmer's incident, but from what I can remember it's Boris' office party vs Starmer's quick beer with a campaign team.

I'm sure I'll be corrected in due course.

[Spungle]

It was work! Work, followed by the quick beer, a full Indian takeaway with the staff, and drunk juniors.  Nothing to see.  Absolutely innocent, as sp points out.  

[davebro3]

By all accounts Starmer was at his party longer than Boris was at his.

[naomi24]

Not by me.  A slice of cake given by a fellow worker versus curry and beer enjoyed with strangers.  You decide.

[naomi24]

Fact is none of them should have been under suspicion.  The whole think was petty and utterly stupid - but you can add spiteful to that where Boris is concerned.  Wicked even.  His enemies have nothing to be proud of.

[sp1814]

naomi24

It's a reality.
 

Boris Johnson wasn't fit for office. Don't you remember the end of his premiership?

It was one thing after another...his judgement was off on waaay too many things.

I know you're a Johnson supporter, but surely you can understand why he had to go.

The Partygate report concluded he had lied to MPs on an “unprecedented” scale. Had he stayed on as the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, he would have faced a 90-day suspension from parliament.

...and then the whole Chris Pincher affair. 

Can you imagine Mrs Thatcher behaving like Johnson?

 

Yes he "delivered" Brexit, but because he has no moral compass there was no way he could've done well as PM.

What's "pathetic" is not being able to see the plain truth. Johnson's great strengths as a campaigner, not as a leader.

We literally saw that!!!

[Sinead_O]

So pleased for Angela being totally vindicated after the nasty attacks by the horrible media and tories.  Perhaps now she can go back to living in peace in her own house if she's decided which one that is yet.

[andy-hughes]

Gulliver - // Angela Rayner not guilty. //

'Not Guilty' is a legal term, used when a defendant has been charged and undergone a court case, in which the prosectuon failed to prove its case to the satisfaction of a judge or jury.

Since Ms Rayner has not been charged, and not been to court, she is not 'not guilty'.

[naomi24]

SP, I remember the end of his premiership very well indeed.  Judged by those who had already condemned him and stabbed in the back by those who should have thanked him.  A truly shameful episode in British politics.  It should have been beneath all of them - but sadly it wasn't.  

[andy-hughes]

Sinead - // So pleased for Angela being totally vindicated after the nasty attacks by the horrible media and tories.  Perhaps now she can go back to living in peace in her own house if she's decided which one that is yet. //

Nicely done.

I'm going to file your post in my "I wish I'd said that ...!" section!!

[naomi24]

I wouldn't want to say that.  I'd file it in the dustbin.

[naomi24]

Or maybe I might ....