Labour Pledges To Reinstate 2030 Ban On New Petrol And Diesel Cars

[naomi24]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/labour-rishi-sunak-mike-hawes-auto-trader-consumers-b2561956.html

 

Just six years away.  How viable is that?

[ToraToraTora]

I'm having it converted to run on the tears of remainers. There is an inexhaustible supply!

[bednobs]

there could be mechanical handling equipment at fuel stations to remove/apply battery.  

[ToraToraTora]

Yes nobs but you would not want your new £20k battery swapped for an old knackered one.

[brainiac]

Battery-swap is already happening:

https://www.am-online.com/news/manufacturer/2023/12/11/nio-and-chinese-ev-brands-ramp-up-battery-swap-rollout-in-europe#:~:text=The%20latest%20battery%20swap%20station,something%20like%20Tesla%27s%20Supercharger%20network.

[dave50]

Yes another policy to hurt people who cannot afford an electric car. So much for there pledge to help normal working people. 

[Old_Geezer]

Not only unlikely to be viable, also not of benefit to the people a government is supposed to be working for. This ridiculous ban should be slung immediately and never returned to. It will do next to no good for global issues, just screw up the people yet again.

[Paul22118]

I wonder how many miles will be on my German puffer engine in 2030?  I am already up to 126K. Maybe I will expire before Mr Merc......

[bednobs]

then people just need to think of another way.  Cars being sold "without" batteries and having a returnable deposit on them.  if you get a duff one, you only have to drive to the next fuel station and change it for another one

 

[Old_Geezer]

The whole electrical car thing is problematic on every level one looks. Taking half a day switching batteries ain't going to mean there are no batties with their associated problems; and it will be horrendously expensive.

 

Existing fossil fuels should be able to continually be made less polluting as tech improves, otherwise one needs to switch to a more convenient alternstive high energy fuel that doesn't need hours filling.

 

And even then, and global improvement would be too small to get excited about. As has been stated many times, it is the power stations where the significant improvements can be made, and we need all nations on board for that.

[Gromit]

The rest of the world are transitioning away from petrol and diesel too, so there won't really be an export market for them if we did carry on making them.

[ToraToraTora]

There will be ICE jam jars for the rest of most of our lives and probably for at least a century so I wouldn't get Alans in a Brahms over it.

[Gromit]

ICEs will be driven by vintage car enthusiasts or be in museums. They don't have much of a future as a mass market product. 

[fender62]

not just cars but lorrys also, it's a fantasy to appease the green lobby loons, the reality is it hit's everyone with a petrol or diesel car lorry etc, that in turn will hit the economy, labour cons libs all seem to want to punish the uk population, all i see is more unemployment down the road, plus more crime, alright for politicians erm especially the ones with deep pockets.

[davebro3]

I don't think battery is a long term solution - hydrogen & fuel cell tech will be the eventual future for transport.

[Old_Geezer]

Exactly.

 

I suspect the electric nonsense has a dual aim of trying to remove personal motorised transport from the public. (Unless it's a bicycle of course.)

 

If the world can screw up by trying to replace the ICE with electricity it has to be possible to undo such errors later when sanity returns.

[fripfrip]

The first thing labour do when they get in power is raise the tax on petrol/derv, they will price the working man off the road .

[tomus42]

If you've got a diesel or petrol car, don't worry or whinge about it. You can keep that forever.

There just won't be any brand new ones in the showroom after 2030.