How Many Of The Newly Elected Labour Mps...

[sandyRoe]

... would think their tuner in Westminster will be a relatively short one?

I'm thinking of the constituencies where Tories couldn't bring themselves to vote or switched to Reform.

In time they'll probably fall back into line.

[sandyRoe]

Not their tuner, their tenure.

[ToraToraTora]

you may have a point 80% of the electorate did not vote for them. 1 term of real Labour is usually enough to show those that don't know what they are like.

[Gromit]

It was a huge defeat. The blue wall in the south will probably revert but a lot depends on what the Conservatives do to reposition themselves. They seem more scared of Reform, but they lost far more seats to the LibDems. Going even further to the far right would be a big error. Moving left of centre is where the votes are, and where their constituents mostly went. Then of the people who want to be leader, I don't see anyone who can united the party or is any good. So I expect them to be in the wilderness for at least two terms.

[Gromit]

The red wall Conservative winners in 2019 realised that their tenure would be short, but the Government they belong to was terrible, a shambles and deserved to be booted out.  
it is hard to imagine the new Government being as bad.

[youngmafbog]

//Going even further to the far right //

What sheer ruddy nonsense, do you understand what Far right really means?

[youngmafbog]

Sandy, I think it is difficult to tell at this point.  Labour didnt actually get more votes (in fact they got less than COB did) so it all depends on how those that stayed at home, voted libDem or Reform feel in 5 years time.

If Labour do achieve things then likley they will stay, if not we could see some shift.

Some 89 seats Reform were just behind Labour, Reform has been pulling people from both the Conservatives and Labour despite the best efforts of some idiots to smear and label far right.

[ToraToraTora]

16:32 Indeed it was a hammering but look behind the seat count and in reality only 20% of the electorate voted for Labour. Oddly enough your fellow marxist, untitled, has been pointing that out all week.

[ToraToraTora]

YMB: "Reform has been pulling people from both the Conservatives and Labour despite the best efforts of some idiots to smear and label far right." - yes, last Friday they put up a stat that I cannot seem to find again but it was concerned with the second choices of Reform voters. 36% was conservative and 18% Labour. So there are a lot of labouresque and other assorted non tory supporters of Reform too.

[Togo]

// look behind the seat count and in reality only 20% of the electorate voted for Labour. //

Indeed. When the referendum result was 52% for Brexit, "Piers Starman" opined that the result was not decisive enough and should be greater to be decisive so a repeat vote was called for. We should therefor be re-running the GE vote shouldn't we?

[Deskdiary]

I may have misunderstood, but is Gromit suggesting the nation are generally left of centre?

 

If he is, he's wrong. The UK is mainly left OR right of centre, but more so right. Other than a few diehards and throwbacks, the UK population does not like extremism.

[Deskdiary]

If this election has taught us anything, it's that FPTP needs reform.

 

It simply cannot be right that Reform polled more than the LibDems, and yet Reform have 5 MPs and the LDs 72.

[ToraToraTora]

"I may have misunderstood, but is Gromit suggesting the nation are generally left of centre?" - he'd like to dream that it is but sadly the figures do not bear that out. Labour have existed 124 years and of that they have been in government for less than 24 years, just under 20% of the time and yes that does include the Lib/lab pact. Britain is a Tory country that now and again lets the lefties in to remind itself what a croc of cac they are.

[Old_Geezer]

Alternatively constituents that didn't vote may be caught up in the swell of patriotism and national fervor, and vote for Reform and the UK next time. A relatively small increase for that in Tory held seats, and the realisation that things are so much worse under Labour in Labour held seats could well make a light blue wall, taking the underdogs into power.

[Peter Pedant]

god it is a bit early to bet on the NRXT electon

they havent even opened parliament on this one