Labour Make Use Of The Rwanda Scheme.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpe388jy2n3o

So not a total waste then.

[newmodarmy]

Not really, but good to see some removals. I'm surprised Vietnam accepts them back- it's a shame France isn't so accommodating

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Wonder if we can send the Bibby Stockholm to Vietnam asap before they get unloaded in a town near us.

[tomus42]

Well done Labour for salvaging a tiny bit of value from the millions already wasted.

They've already done more to fulfill Suella's 'dream' than her own party ever did.

[Gromit]

No it doesn't.

The last Government hired a plane. But they are now out of power and that flight is not going to happen.

Tvhe new Government need to use a plane, so they will use the one previously booked.

Rwanda and Vierltnam are different distances, so it might not be the same aircraft.

Presumeably once the flight has happened the present Government will pay the bill.

[naomi24]

//They've already done more to fulfill Suella's 'dream' than her own party ever did.//

 

This is 55 people.  We'll forget about the tens of thousands this government is about to rubber stamp in.   What a joke!

[douglas9401]

55 more than Suella though, stick to the point please.

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI, how many did the Tories send to Rwanda and how much has been spent on the scheme?

[naomi24]

I am sticking to the point,  Returning people to their home countries isn't unusual.  No gold stars for Labour for doing  that.

 

//In 2023, we delivered a strong removal performance, with overall returns back to pre-covid levels. In total, 26,000 were returned, an increase of 74%, at an average of 500 removed every week last year.//

 

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2024-04-15/debates/ADACB127-79D0-4673-99B4-00D06EE27B0E/ReturningIllegalMigrantsToTheirHomeCountry

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "Tvhe new Government need to use a plane, so they will use the one previously booked." - yes they used something from the Rwanda scheme, thanks for the conformation!

[Untitled]

"I'm surprised Vietnam accepts them back"

the vast majority of the vietnamese who participate in small boat crossings do so because they are coerced... they are victims of modern slavery. they are here against their will and not surprising that they seek to be returned 

[Untitled]

"We'll forget about the tens of thousands this government is about to rubber stamp in"

how do you know that they are going to rubber stamp them please? they have promised to process applications more quickly but that doesn't mean accepting asylum claims.

[naomi24]

// they are here against their will //

 

How do you know that?  

[naomi24]

//how do you know that they are going to rubber stamp them please? they have promised to process applications more quickly but that doesn't mean accepting asylum claims.//

 

They've said they're expecting to rubber stamp 60,000.... and that's only in the first batch.

[Untitled]

I read it on Anti-Slavery International which is a charity that researches and tries to act against modern slavery

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "the vast majority of the vietnamese who participate in small boat crossings do so because they are coerced." - you coerced by saving for years to pay people smugglers to transport them half way round the world? Right oh! What sort of villains would round up unwilling people and then pay to transport them to the UK? I think we need more on this theory me old china.

[Untitled]

where did they say "rubber stamp"?? all i can find is a promise to process applications. not the same thing.

[ToraToraTora]

10:31 so a vested charity, right oh! I beat JSO have a magazine too!

[naomi24]

untitled, You may have read it but you can't assume it applies to all failed immigrants.

[Untitled]

"you coerced by saving for years to pay people smugglers to transport them half way round the world? Right oh! What sort of villains would round up unwilling people and then pay to transport them to the UK?"

the kind of villains who need cheap labour for producing illegal goods like cannabis or methamphetamine and make lots of money from it. human trafficking is a particularly serious problem in vietnam and it is a particularly easy part of the world in which to gather that particular commodity. i suspect the cost of smuggling them is usually paid by the organisations involved rather than the people being trafficked. 

i stress that this is usually the case for vietnamese who make small boat crossings... obviously this does not necessarily apply to other groups like albanians for example. 

[Untitled]

I didn't say it applied to all of them did I naomi... i said it was true of a majority of vietnamese who are involved in small boat crossings.