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Two Tier Policing... Conspiracy Theory?
Certanly doesnt seem like a conspiracy when people with no previous convictions are getting some serious jail time while the thugs that broke a police womans nose and fought withe the other police are walking free.
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"Hope NJ sees this. Be interesting to know why they are walking the streets when its all on video."Unfor
17:26 Thu 22nd Aug 2024
The four arrested over the Manchester Airport incident have not yet been prosecuted. A file went to the CPS last Thursday, and they will recommend what charges are brought.
Not sure how you can compare that with the prosecution and sentencing of rioters. Maybe wait until after a trial to compare outcomes.
//The four arrested over the Manchester Airport incident have not yet been prosecuted.//
Why havnt they?
Ive had enough experience of the law to know that if I punched a copper I would be immediately arrested and charged. I would then either be given police bail with a court date or taken to court for them to decide bail or remand.
The Airport incident took place on 23 July and GMP didn't pass on its file to the CPS until 15th August, Not sure why it took GMP over 3 weeks to submit their evidence, but they are in Special Measures and are one of the worst perforcing Police Services in the country. There was no COBRA meeting about the incident.
The riots did demand a COBRA meeting amid fears that they would spread to other towns and cities. It was decided that rapid prosecution and jailing of the culprits would deter more riots. And that seems to have happened.
Again, the incidents being compared are not really similar, and different offences occurred.
The violent incident at the airport will be dealt with by the courts in due course. It's not something that's going to incite similar assaults on the police.
In contrast, the riots could easily have become far more widespread.
The authorities needed to nip them in the bud. They did this with quick court appearances and heavy prison sentences.
There's nothing two tiered about what we've seen.
Sandy, you are on my FB friends list. You probably know more about me than other ABers. BUT...
//The authorities needed to nip them in the bud. They did this with quick court appearances and heavy prison sentences//
SO, why are these lot that attacked Manchester airport staff, (including afflicting a broken nose on a female police officer) still walking free?
Two tier maybe?
I've heard on the radio that some accused people have been waiting for more than a year for their day in court. Others, who had been remanded in custody, were deemed by the courts to have served their time and were released when convicted.
Those accused of th egregious assault on the police at Manchester airport will join the queue for justice. It'll be meted out eventually.
The rioters are in a different category, threatening the peace and setting a bad example.
The authorities moved to show deterrents. There'd be quick justice and long sentences for the convicted.
When a potential rioters sees two or three year sentences being handed down, he might think twice before joining in.
"Hope NJ sees this. Be interesting to know why they are walking the streets when its all on video."
Unfortunately I can't shed any light on why the police and CPS are dragging their heels in this particular case.
What I can say more generally is that in cases of violence, it is not always possible o determine an appropriate charge in short order. There are a range of charges to consider from Common Assault through to GBH with intent.
The charges arising from the riots were more straightforward. They were brought under the Public Order Act, mainly for Violent Disorder.
I would not be surprised if orders came from "on high" to make swift charging decisions and bring the offenders to court rapidly. The disorder was becoming increasingly violent and out of control and it is more luck than judgement that few, if any, serious injuries or deaths resulted. Any government has a duty to do whatever is necessary to quell such behaviour. I didn't agree with all the decisions made by the courts - especially when one judge said anybody merely being present was guilty of violent disorder. But overall, seeing rapid justice dispensed with appropriaely harsh sentences was necessary and seemed to have had an effect.
That said, I think the decisions on the Manchester Airport incident are overdue.
Sandy, during the Stoke riots a few weeks ago, I was there. Initially happened literally a minute walk from my flat and then moved up because there is a mosque...again literally a minute from my flat, but in the other direction.
I saw (and videod) the police subjuct to extreme violence, house bricks been thrown etc. I would not justify that. Police dogs getting pelted with bricks etc.
//I've heard on the radio that some accused people have been waiting for more than a year for their day in court//
Unless you arnt reffiring to these recent riots then that impossible.
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