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gulliver1 | 17:58 Sun 01st Sep 2024 | News
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Not only is Sir Keir Starmer doing such a wonderful job steering the UK towards re/joining the EU .He is now about to re/introduce Nationalisation starting with the Railways Next step.  Water Companies then the Electric Companies .Lets get rid of all the fat cats that Thatcher created.😎

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AB is in a sorry state.

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Gosh

That could get you 26 months in the current climate, Gromit.

"Good job": my sides should be splitting; but strangely they aren't.

First time I ever agreed with Gromit and it is removed. Seconded though!

And he's been suspended. Shame because he's one of the more sensible ones on the Left here and recognises and calls out the OP's nonsense

And he's been suspended. - write to the editor - email on her blog, if you object.

I write about once a week in terms so un-mimsy that it would make your ears curl

and yes she is well used to the complaint that it is not the content but the poster.

and yes I agree the so called nationalisation of the utilities has been an abysmal failure - even Stigler ( Nobel Prize winner) said that the idea of a private company running a utiity into the ground and demanding the govt save them, was NOT the idea

 Gulliver who is forever baiting on this site is allowed to even though baiting others is a definition of trolling. I ask for about the fifth time, can any mod or editor give their definition of trolling (Rule no 9) used on this site because whatever it is, it doesn't match any dictionary's definition?

What is the point af asking existing contributors for money and trying to get new members  when we have this nonsense on a daily basis.

Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion,

wiki: troll - the whole article is pretty 'woke'

Mrs Cheeses post ' there have now been billions of reactions to covid vaccine' I regarded as classical  trolling but might even  be excluded under some definitions ( legitimately held opinion)

My own posts veer from " cant  understand  a word " to " clearly insulting" which means they DO understand a few words at least. I dont regard mercilessly ridiculing these inconsistencies as trolling, more a bit of an oxbridge rib-tickler to llighten the darkness

I mean christ once Mamalynne axed an obituarial post because  - - - the fella was dead....( early use of the un-mimsy rule) - I wdnt regard mentioning that once or twice a week ( ok dwelling) as trolling.

PP, if this doesn't describe what happens everyday on this site, what does?

"Trolls are people who leave intentionally provocative or offensive messages on the internet in order to get attention, cause trouble or upset someone."

I'll defend this OP as it's not abusive ( except an abuse to the English language in terms of random capital letters and mispositione punctuation) ...my only comment is it's not News and we usually see an instruction to repost in Politics as this News entry will be deleted in 5 mins...

// my only comment is it's not News //

actually it is - the Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill 2024-25 will pass through its remaining stages tomorrow (the 3rd). although anyone who thinks it'll make much difference is likely to be disappointed. the railways have already moved from a franchise model to a service contract model, the government sets the fares and collects all the revenue, the service provider just gets an annual fee. as the current contracts (the bill calls them "franchises" but they're not) expire, it just means the service provider will be government owned. For this, the government is already shelling out £20bn a year in subsidies, this can only increase as Network Rail is starved of cash. the bill won't "nationalise" the railway as it won't take the privately owned rolling stock into public ownership, nor will it de-privatise the freight operations, which are wholly commercial in nature.

It's quite straightforward really - if you don't like the look of a post or think it's nonsense, simply ignore it. Responding is not compulsory. "Trolling" only works if it elicits response.

Yes of course trolling can be ignored but then why is  rule no 9 ignored, every other rule is enforced?

You are right, mushroom- ignoring the fact that it's another woo whoo, suck it up losers' type post designed to wind up the usual suspects- some of it is news  (well, about 10 words of it. )

The first sentence isn't News or even true, it's just opinion, and the last sentence isn't news just another go at Thatcher. And the sentence about Water Companies abd the Electric Companies isn't true or News. 

Besides, Vulcan, the poster you refer to has been put on the naughty step again for a while for  more obvious trolling /provocation/pure stupidity on another thread

// the sentence about Water Companies and the Electric Companies isn't true //

indeed. prior to the election, it was pointed out to renationalise Thames Water alone would cost £90bn, together with the government "buying" their debt of £15bn. the government could of course compulsorily purchase at reduced value or nil value, but this would have adverse effects on future tax receipts, not to mention the then visible threat of expropriation for potential foreign investors to take into account.

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