Could Labour Learn From The Donald?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1974098/President-Trump-will-send-stock-markets-wild-then-crash

"He'll boost economic growth by slashing corporate taxes, red tape and government spending.

Which is the exact opposite of what Labour is plotting under Keir Starmer.

Instead of talking up the UK economy, Starmer has talked it down at every opportunity. He's destroyed business confidence by warning things will get worse."

"UK energy secretary Ed Miliband is blocking new North Sea oil exploration licences and throwing money at unproven green tech such as carbon capture and storage.

The US economy will soon be running red hot, while the UK will be taking a cold bath."

Oh dear Labour!

[Untitled]

donald trump wants to deport 10-13 million people and wants to do it very quickly and has promised that no pricetag is too high

this will be a disaster

[naomi24]

If it's a disaster it will be his disaster,  If it's not a disaster ... he'll have succeeded.  He's been elected on such pledges.  

[Untitled]

do you support this policy naomi?

[naomi24]

I'm not American.

[Untitled]

but do you?

[naomi24]

If he's deporting illegal immigrants, good for him.  Yes, I do support that.

[Khandro]

untitled, //donald trump wants to deport 10-13 million people and wants to do it very quickly //

Can you give a link for that?

He's only just named the person he will be appointing as 'Border Tsar' today. 

[Untitled]

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/06/trump-deportation-immigration/76088969007/

https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/

[Khandro]

untitled  from your link  //

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What has Trump said about mass deportation?

During his campaign, Trump did not release detailed plans on how he would deport the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the U.S. illegally. But he offered a glimpse into what he might do in campaign speeches and in comments made by his advisers.

So the 'news' is, that he hasn't said anything about those numbers !!

Talk about putting words into someone's mouth. Bit of a lefty, rag, that journal you read.

[max137]

Could Labour learn looking from a distance no except for the Atlee government probably, the rest have failed even the sainted Tony made a mess in the end.

[Untitled]

he has promised to deport undocumented migrants khandro and that is a fact. there are at least 11 million of those according to best estimates, that is also a fact (trump actually thinks it is as many as 15-20 million). he has also said he is willing to deploy the national guard and army in order to do so and that the policy comes with no price tag. 

stop licking this man's boots. it is undignified and embarrassing. 

[naomi24]

Untitled, stop the personal attacks. 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: " it is undignified and embarrassing." - as is what you are doing me old china.

[Khandro]

untitled; I have asked for you to give a link to where Trump has said he intends to deport 11 million people and the one you gave is totally specious.

You claim to have relatives in the USA, have you asked them how they feel about the immigration situation? 

[New Judge]

"...he has promised to deport undocumented migrants khandro and that is a fact."

You say that as if it is outrageous. Why do you have a particular problem with that? Do you believe that all countries should accommodate anybody who simply turns up?

[ToraToraTora]

khandro: "You claim to have relatives in the USA, have you asked them how they feel about the immigration situation? " - more to the point can he guarantee they are among the 74m UHPs?

[Khandro]

TTT yes I'm beginning to wonder that. Perhaps they are Mexicans or Haitians 😄 

[Untitled]

one part of my family is a couple of "judaizing" christians in georgia (christians who observe jewish law). they believe that the democrats are controlled by a conspiracy of devil-worshipping pedophiles and voted for trump because they believe he will put them to death. 

another is in the american air force. he believes that mr trump will introduce tax cuts and doesn't really care what he might do to anyone else. 

another is an owner of a bunch of small hotels (b&bs) in the carolinas. she also believes the pedophile conspiracy theory. 

1 and 3 both believe that all (or nearly all) undocumented migrants are enemies of the USA and corrupt it by their presence. 2 simply doesn't care what happens to them. 
 

newjudge - i explained my problems with the policy earlier. 

[Khandro]

'one part of my family is a couple of "judaizing" christians in georgia (christians who observe jewish law). they believe that the democrats are controlled by a conspiracy of devil-worshipping pedophiles and voted for trump because they believe he will put them to death.'

This accounts for a for a great deal !! 

[New Judge]

"newjudge - i explained my problems with the policy earlier."

But any undocumented migrants working in the USA are doing so illegally. You seem to be saying that the country must simply put up with that because employers have also been breaking the law by employing them and as a result now depend on them.

Biden's plan for a "pathway" to citizenship simply encourages more of them to arrive illegally. Mr Trump's plan for a "pathway" back across the border will put a stop to that.

If the US really is dependant upon huge numbers of illegal foreign workers to staff some of its major industries, (a) it should re-assess its economic model and (b) in the meantime it should develop an immigration policy which allows its authorities to invite the people whom they want to settle there. Simply allowing a free-for-all across the Mexican border does not seem very wise.