He's Already Talking About A 3Rd Term.

[sandyRoe]

The Donald, that is.

Fortunately, the old hooded guy with the scythe will probably intervene before that becomes a problem for America democracy.

[Togo]

//You rate Starmer up there with Hitler and Putin?//

After his start he is showing great promise. Can lie without compunction, totally devoid of social skills, a face that not even a mother would like, shady past and a cover up of early beginnings, secretive home life, surrounded by expectant zealots, and extremely self conscious. He has it all. 

[Atheist]

Apart from not being a mass murderer at a young age. He's got a long way to go before the likes of you could admire him.

[Togo]

The likes of me? Are you sure about that? I will give you an undeserved minute or so to reconsider that particular snide description. 

[Togo]

Alway remember. When I am being theatrically contentious it is deliberate. I am convinced that you are unaware of how obnoxious you are without any effort of aforethought on your part. 

[Atheist]

Togo; I have the impression that you are strongly pro right-wing and anti left-wing. You said that Starmer is showing great promise at being similar to Hitler and Putin. I then implied that you might admire Hitler and Putin. That was wrong of me.

Do you honestly believe that Starmer is a potential authoritarian dictator and mass murderer? It would be nice to know your view on that.

[jourdain2]

If I may dip a toe into this?  Starmer has no imagination.

He is a lawyer, conditioned and constrained in his thinking through years of practising his profession.  He thinks in straight, legal lines. This is a disastrous trait in a P.M., who needs to be aware of more subtle shifts, feelings and impacts.

Beause of this I can see what Togo is getting at. Yes, Starmer could find himself following a path that leads eventually to authoritarian dictatorship.  Look at the reaction to the protesters at Southport.  People (not deliberate rabble-rousers paid to undermine democracy) jailed for years because of a tweet!

Anyway, that's my two-penn'orth. The subject is Trump, sorry to interrupt - but Starmer is worrying me.

[Atheist]

jourdain. I do worry more about Trump than Starmer. I think that Starmer is concerned with long-term problems such as global warming, which is something that could lead to the end of civilisation (unless you don't believe in it).

[jourdain2]

Right now I think that there are several issues which could lead tothe end of civilisationas we know it, Atheist. I'm concerned about all of them.

[Atheist]

jourdain. I'm concerned about the survival of humans, not civilisation as we know it. Civ as we know it is based on capitalism or communism, democracy or dictatorship  and so on.

[Atheist]

BTW jourdain. Always nice to talk to you without too much rancour.

[jourdain2]

Ditto.  :)

[fripfrip]

Just to point out to you Atheist you have been a part of the capitalist society you dislike so much,and it seems from your writings its given you a good life.

[Atheist]

fripfrip; Thanks for pointing out to me that I am part of a capitalist society: I hadn't realised that before. And your ability to pin me down from reading my few scribbles shows how Holmesian you are. However, I am still concerned about the fate of the human race. I hope you are.

[ynnafymmi]

@22.02.Remember fripfrip that Atheist is super intelligent,easily the most cleverest of all ABers that have ever appeared on this site,he must have an IQ of about ten zillion....aye,right....

[fripfrip]

^^           ^^

Yes that's true,but can he tie is own shoelaces?

[fripfrip]

HE's one of those people that knows everything but can't do nothing.

[sandyRoe]

Do personal attacks advance arguments?

I think not.

[fripfrip]

Try telling that to the protesters on saturday,i'm sure they will appreciate your valuable point of view.

[sandyRoe]

Is it the rich farmers this time?

[fripfrip]

No it's the usual dole scum.