Is Labour Prosecuting A Class War?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-is-absolutely-not-engaged-in-class-war-prime-minister-sir-keir-starmer-insists-13256630

On the basis that we should never believe anything until it is officially denied I'd say they are.

[Old_Geezer]

Are the poor pensioners included in this war on the wealthy class ?

[nicebloke1]

Doom and gloom once again. Well if you care to call it a class war sobeit. I would see it as leveling up, the latter being what the cons pledged many times along with many of their other pledges, all false pledges in the hope of winning another GE, thats why just before the GE they promised a pathetic 20 million to the leveling up fund. 

Gove the so called housing minister talked a lot, action nill.

Who's going to pay for this leveling up? All the big companies that are bleating at the moment, because now they will have to pay for their shopfloor staff, opposed to the government covering a percentage of their staffs wages in the form of ( In work benefits) not only will these companies have to pay for their own staff, they will have to pay them a decent income, hence the increase in minimum wage. No increase in NI or tax for the working man/ woman.

The money raised in extra tax and NI from these wealthy companies ( some of their wealth gained from the tax payer) being cheap labour will be invested in new homes for young people to rent or even buy. New schools that are crumbling, another area that the cons ignored, and stop the NHS from crumbling, the latter crumpling in many ways not just the buildings.

So leveling up does it for me, not a class war. Everyone deserves a reasonable standard of a living wage and a home to live in and a school to learn in. A most of all a hospital thats fully staffed with the right equipment in to recover in. Amen. :○)

[brainiac]

The total money raised from inflicting untold worry and penury on farmers is about £500m - how long will that sum last in housing illegal migrants in hotels?

[naomi24]

^And there you have Cloud Cuckoo Land.

[naomi24]

^That to Nicebloke.

[nicebloke1]

Farmers will also have to pay a living wage also.

[naomi24]

And who ultimately pays for all of it, nicebloke?  I'll tell you.  the 'working man'.... you know, that bloke who was assured he would be safe.  .   

[naomi24]

To answer the question, yes, Labour is prosecuting a class war.  Foolish, ignorant people.

 

[gulliver1]

Tax dodging wealthy Tory land owners now have to pay tax under this new Labour Govt ..Good

[theshedman]

Seems like any money they may make from this will just go to the countries he is offering extra aid to.  He seems to have plenty of money to give to other countries.  Why can't he stay here and help sort ours out first.

[Prudie]

And there you have it, total proof that hatred is the driver in all this, even thought it's from someone who really hasn't the foggiest about farmers. Real Labour must be either turning in their graves or hanging their heads in disbelief. 

[naomi24]

//hanging their heads in disbelief. //

 

Or shame.

[nicebloke1]

Illegals? Many of them being hidden on farms for cheap labour, making the wealthy even more wealthy, without paying NI and tax.

[ToraToraTora]

nicebloke: "The money raised in extra tax and NI from these wealthy companies ( some of their wealth gained from the tax payer) being cheap labour will be invested in new homes for young people to rent or even buy. New schools that are crumbling, another area that the cons ignored, and stop the NHS from crumbling, the latter crumpling in many ways not just the buildings." - there won't be any, they will avoid it by cutting jobs and/or moving. In the end it'll cost more in dole money and lost employee tax/ni. Wake up and think it through.

[rowanwitch]

So far I am doing ok collecting on bets made with various Labour supporters before the election.  First attack. Pensioners with any degree of private pension ✓  those who live outside of urban conurbations but own land( i.e. Farmers and growers, ✓,just waiting for confirmation of higher rate of tax for private pensions to get the treble,   also still have  Starmer to be replaced by a far left mp within two years,   doesn't offset what I have already lost but it has made the point to a couple of young women who don't remember the Wilson and Callaghan era.

[nicebloke1]

If Walmart, one of the biggest retailers in the US who have interests in Asda dont like the increase in NI an tax in this country, then bye bye. The tax payer is NOT paying for your staff, they work for you so you pay them from your profits like you should be doing. But it appears even now they have STILL been under paying many thousands of their staff regardless of the support from our government. Greed nothing more.

[ToraToraTora]

12:13 there are none so bline as those that will not see. They'll cut jobs you wally, introduce further automation. They close and merge stores, find ways of avoiding it, that's what businesses in the private sector do. This whole ENI fiasco will result in less money for the treasury in the end.

[naomi24]

Nicebloke, //But it appears even now they have STILL been under paying many thousands of their staff //

 

Are you saying that Asda are paying less than the minimum wage?

[nicebloke1]

Wally?

[gulliver1]

Nicebloke 12.28 I wasn't sure what the word meant either but on googling it, the answer came up as. ttt,