Starmer In Jobs Push.....right Oh!

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxwv3n87g4o

Pity Rachel from accounts has just put out the most anti jobs budget in history! Should their right hand introduce itself to their left hand?

[naomi24]

//Companies says the increase in National Insurance payments, together with the rise in the minimum wage, will make them less likely to create new jobs//

 

Which bit of that doesn't he understand?

[nicebloke1]

No company/ business create jobs, they take on more staff when and were needed. If they just created jobs for the fun of it, they would soon be OUT of business. :○) 

[naomi24]

//they take on more staff when and were needed.//

 

Did youever stop to ask why extra staff might be needed?  Just have a little think about it.

[nicebloke1]

Well Dyson needed lots of staff but he didn't want to pay the workers here. He now pays out packets of rice over seas. But loves using those profits to buy up land here in the UK

[naomi24]

So you don't know.  Thought not.

[nicebloke1]

So i don't know? Only in your mind. A lot of bleating from people who didnt vote in a GE but expect everything to go their way.

[naomi24]

 It's not 'my' way, nicebloke.  The flavour of government makes makes little or no difference to me.  I fear for the country though..... and with good reason.

[ToraToraTora]

nicebloke: "Well Dyson needed lots of staff but he didn't want to pay the workers here. He now pays out packets of rice over seas." - see if you can work out why that might be. Could it be that he found a place where staff are cheaper to hire? So by raising ENI through the roof Little miss "economist" makes it more likely that other firms will find ways of not hiring the now even more expensive British workers. Geddit?

[nicebloke1]

I would fear for this country if KS wasn't in no 10. No one loves paying bills, like it or not they have to be paid, and for a time the bills are going to hurt a little for a while. (BUT, everyone)has to put in the kitty. The wellfare bill has gone completely bonkers, get off one ass, or go without thats the option they have. 

I could walk down to my town centre right now and come back with a job, not a great job but a job, and it may finish after the january sales. You've gained a little experience if you've never worked, and you never now what may come of the 2 months work/effort. You gain NIL stopping at home.

[ToraToraTora]

"The wellfare bill has gone completely bonkers, get off one ass, or go without thats the option they have. " - I agree but introducing anti employment measures are not going to help that are they?

[vulcan42]

Where will these jobs come from, companies are already talking about cutting back and not taking on more staff?  Overhauling job centres isn't going to create jobs.

[nicebloke1]

13.03 minimum wage is not a great hourly rate even adding increases. Any company like Dyson are just down right greedy. The uk dont want them or need them. Dyson, even  well before these increases left for over seas because he didnt even want to pay the minimum wage, again even befor the latest  increase in the MW.

He wants slaves on peanuts and rice. Bye bye. GEDDIT. :●))))

[gramps85]

nicebloke. Please take off those blinkers and look around at what is happening in the real world. In the words of the CBI Chairman at the CBI Conference, at which Reeves was attending, he said 'Business has been treated as a cash cow to be milked'. The CEO of McVitie's biscuits said 'the case for investment in the UK was harder to understand'. Other delegates warned Reeves that there was a real danger of businesses moving overseas. 

Maybe you could walk down your high street and come back with a part time job, but if businesses do move overseas, even that will not be an option.

I recognise that you wish to back your party and its leader, and I have no complaints about that, its the same as Tory supporters defending their actions, but please realise that the actions in the Budget has caused a great deal of problems to businesses, and without them producing, and employing, we all will be in a great deal of trouble.

[nicebloke1]

Come back and bleat about this government when they've had half a chance to make things work.

[ToraToraTora]

Nicebloke just wants to rant on about business being greedy. Yes it is, of course it is. Do you expect them to doff their cap to the government and wear the budget changes? They'll do what we all do, optimise their situation. I agree business is greedy, now stop it with the obvious and see if you can distill what's going on.

[Deskdiary]

1.21pm - given nicebloke1 referred the Reeves disaster as "The greatest budget ever" it's unlikely he will accept your point.

[nicebloke1]

Oh. Let me know when you hear about mass companies moving over seas, and mass unemployment. Give me some proof, just bleating what may or maynot happen is stupid, but it almost seems to be a wish on AB of late

[ToraToraTora]

13:25 "Come back and bleat about this government when they've had half a chance to make things work."

they've already crushed the life out of any sort of growth.

You might like to look at what TGL did in 1979 after the last real Labour government wrecked the economy. She cut taxes (which actually increased tax receipts) and regs to encourage business. Labour were at 33% income tax she took 2p straight off that and abolished the ridiculous 65p+ rate.

Labour are clueless always have been.

[nicebloke1]

13.28. I expect them to pay for the staff, and not expect the government to keep topping up their poor pay. GEDDIT, god this GEDDIT is catching, lets try again. Do you understand my post. Thank you :○)

[Old_Geezer]

Part of why it might be is the ease in which nations allow wealth gathered from one nation to be moved to invest in another. Were it more difficult it would more likely be invested in the nation it came from instead.