what if the existence of god was proven?

[joko]

What would you think if the existence of god and jesus was ever proven beyond all doubt?
I don't know how, but say it was something that banished all doubt once and for all.
How would you feel? Believers and non- believers

(please no insisting that he already does exist, that is a separate debate � I mean from a realistic point of view � what would you feel if it was proven outright)
thanks

[Drisgirl]

joko - not News.Think there has been enough to swamp it recently.Maybe suggest to Ed there should be Topic for Religion?

[El D]

Well if it was joko I would still have many questions, and one would assume that they would be answered. Perhaps that would be the biggest question of all . . .

[joko]

well it would be big news if it happened!

can you suggest a more suitable topic? other than asking the ed for a new one which isn't very practical

[madein1978]

I would be a mixture of feelings, I would thank him for the nice things that have happened to me, ask him why the nasty things have happened, its a pretty big topic actually! I have no doubt that God and Jesus exist anyway, I believe he is watching, as well as members of family which have departed. I'm not sure if you are asking if it was outright proven he exists or if it were proven he still exists as a real, tangeable entity on the earth.

[Drisgirl]

joko it was big news aons ago.

It is not a topical News subject -Body and Soul or People and Places History and Myths?

I have suggested to ABed on several occasions that a debating/discussion topic/forum would be popular.

I didnt want to come across as an AB monitor but I'm all religioned up at the moment - cant escape it on News.If its not Capital Punishment its Muslim!!

[rosyrussell]

I am sure that if dear Douglas Adams were with us still he would have something profound to say on this matter.. I think it would cause an uproar because all the insurance agencies would be able to blame EVERYTHING on an act of God and never have to pay out a penny on leaking pipes (whoops - nearly typed Popes by mistake! wonder what that signifies!)

[Drisgirl]

What have you started joko:)

78 is going for the biggest thread in history - all with his own replies to his previous posts.Mark my words.

Anyway I can always avoid it - no offence to you.

BTW-78 Buddy is alive and well nice of you to remember her!!!Muslim post you took over - just to jog your memory.

[Ward-Minter]

If God was proven to exist beyond all reasonable doubt I would say "Hi God, fancy a pie and a pint down The Pig and Whistle?"

Maybe we could play some darts as well.

[madein1978]

Free country, for the moment, I will keep my nose out of this one however, you probably wouldn't like anything I had to say. I hijacked nothing, people kept saying things directed at me, I couldn't not reply, not my fault if people don't like what I say! In other words, TOUGH! Toodle-pip!

[LeMarchand]

As a non-believer, I'd feel pretty sheepish.

I'd say this was a good section for such a debate. B&S seems to be full of medical and relationship questions with the odd Q on whatever fad is current (crystals, angels etc etc).

[Greedyfly]

I still wouldnt/couldnt believe it.

[brachiopod]

My God! (oops! I'd have to stop saying that for a start!)

But I'm actually with W-M on this one!

I'd take him out for a pint or two, and after he'd had a few I'd say;

"Look, mate, about those things I said - I didn't really mean it, honest! Nahh, it was jus' a joke."

then a bit later, I'd be going;

"I love you, your my besht mate, you are...."

[kick3m0n]

I'd tell him that I thought him and his dumb son were full of schhhht for letting all these religious r-soles wage war and kill innocents, when all along he could have done something about it. Infact, thinking about it, I'd have even less respect for him if he was proven to exist than I do now, (I don't believe in any god at all).

Rory - LOL! You're right about Douglas Adams......would God be mouse shaped I wonder? Did they get the answer they wanted???

[johnlambert]

Jesus did exist, he's on histoical records. Whether he was the son of God or not is down to the individual.

personally I belive in both, but that's just me

[Loosehead]

Well all the religions whose god he wasn't would think he was an imposter so we'd be back to square one!

[Englishbird]

I'd be back tracking like mad. I'm very fickle like that ;o)

[Clanad]

I'd say that greedyfly's honest answer really cuts to the heart of the matter. I usually explain carefully and lengthily about all the evidence for belief all the while realizing full well it most likely falls on deaf ears (and hearts). But greedyfly comes closest to the actual feelings most have concerning this issue; It's a matter of won't rather than can't, as is the absolute right of every individual. Regardless of all the excellent, time proven evidence and reasoning capable of being applied to the question, if the heart isn't affected then no change occurs. In fact Yeshua said it quite clearly in His appearance to Thomas in John 20:25-29, 'Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.'" In my opinion...

[jimmer]

You are at least being consistent making the distinction Clanad since you eschew evidence based science as un-provable, a great example of won't V's can't. I would think that most rational people would welcome "absolute proof" of anything including the existence of god. However, it would be fair to assume that he would be ex-directory so the world would remain pretty much the same.

I read an interesting article on the web today about one of the pope's "miracles ": Apparently he cured a nun of parkinson's disease. The author asked whether the Pope could have grown back the limb of an amputee? Sounds pretty silly when you put it like that. The reason I bring this up is because with all the trouble in the world, the escalating conflict between christians and muslims; wars, famine and disease in Africa; and a world economy based on slave labour and decimation of scarce resources, what "faith" are you buying into?



jim

[joko]

jimmer - I saw the graham norton show the other night and his guest was roseanne.
she told a story about how as a child she had become kind of a child preacher.
she was from an extremely religious family.
she said that one day she got bells palsy and instead of going to the docs her parents took her to the church.
next day her face was still paralysed and somehow they decided to go to the mormon church.
next day she was better - the family became mormons immediately as well as stayed with their original faith. they believed they had witnessed a miracle.
she then became a child preacher around their american back water towns.

she then said as an adult she was flicking through a medical book and read that bells palsy was often only a 48 hour condition!

[jimmer]

Joko

great story i had a laugh at that one (i'm not typing lol (doh)). Even if you believe the pope had a word with this Nun its a big leap to believe he cured her. Parkinson's is mis-diagnosed almost 50 percent of the time. But i guess, at least most believers probably are realistic enough to go to the doctors.

jim