911 consipracy

[hugoboss]

Can i highly recommend, even for the people who totally believe what the media portrayed, that you somehow get hold of the film Loose Change and watch it, then get everyone you know to watch it too

[jake-the-peg]

And then if you believe it I've got a great car to sell you... only one careful lady owner who was a Catholic priest and used it for mass on a Sunday!

[johnlambert]

hugoboss, dont belive the consipacy theories they are all wrong, a bunch of deluded terrorists hijached 4 aircraft and flew them into the twin towers and the pentagon, one crashed into the ground when the very brave passengers fought back. end of.

LOL @ jake-the-peg well done mate.

[Loosehead]

When are you suckers going to realise that the conspiracy theorists make up this sh1t so they can sell their books and DVD's it's a marketting exersize. All the so called anomolies are routinely explained. Same as the moon landing, princess Di, Titanic etc etc

[JoCannon]

I'd have to totally agree with you Loosehead

[plonker]

What about JF Kennedy?

[johnlambert]

what about JFK? he was shot in the head by a lone gunman

like I said earlier, end of, let it be,

[plonker]

I agree. What those men did was totally evil. There will always be conspirancy theories with politicans because so much corruption anyway.So Loosehead, the evil act cannot be compared to Princess Di, Titantic or JF Kennedy.

[Loosehead]

Plonker, I wasn't comparing I was just producing other examples where the conspiracy theorists have got involved.

[plonker]

All avenues should be investigated so that this disgusting, sickening, atrocity and everything that follows it, should never happen ever again. There should be nothing to hide. I am so glad I am an aethist. People have turned religion into a farce on all sides.

[Whickerman]

And then watch Wag The Dog and think of Afghanistan?

[stevie_c2it]

No one ever did explain to me why the flag was waving in the breeze on the moon landing footage.

[Loosehead]

Get with the program steve thats been explained loads of times:

http://www.clavius.org/envflutter.html

[noxlumos]

Does it really matter what conclusion people come to after hearing all sides comment? Some intelligent people are conspiracy theorists and some stupid people accept anything they read in a Govt paper and vice versa, but is there a need to chuck insults about? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and although lots of these conspiracy theories are absurd, surely in a free society it's a good thing that people find themselves questioning official lines on things and drawing their own conclusions.From my own personal experience where I grew up (Belfast) I can tell you that the official line is not what has always happened at all, and if lies and corruption are present there then why potentially not everywhere else?It's only common sense that people get away with what they can, your Govts etc are no different.

[stevie_c2it]

Hey loosehead, how 'bout this one ;)

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Apollo1.rm

[stevie_c2it]

oops. knock off the </p>

[Loosehead]

I've seen that dozens of times, ok you got me into a subject I have studied for years.

The astronaught is trying to screw the flag pole into the moon surface, it clearly is not going in easily so he is having to screw it left and right as you would trying to do the same thing in your garden. The absence of air means that there is nothing to dampen the movement of the flag caused by him trying to screw it in. As we know in a vaccum objects move until they are interupted by something else. Try it on earth on a still day and you'll see that the flag does not flutter when you twist the pole around the atmosphere dampens the movement. Also note that the flag has a top bar to keep it horizontal.

Do you really think that if they faked it they would have let this out?

Did you read the explanation in my link above?

[Loosehead]

Astronaut! Doh!

[LazyGun]

some links refuting the 911 conspiracy claims for those of you interested;
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842. html
http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm

[stevie_c2it]

Didn't mean to yank your chain loosehead.

Yes, I looked at your link, but as it happens, I'm already familiar with the arguments both for and against, as I too have been fascinated by this subject for many years.

I think you may have 'jumped the gun' in your assumption that I believe the 'moon landing' conspiracy story. It was intended to be a humorous link.

For the record though, many of the documented photographs that purport to be of the moon landing are in fact studio shots taken during training simulations on earth, and have subsequently found their way into official files (deliberate or not).

It is believed that both Nixon and NASA were concerned that film or photographic evidence might not survive the trip, and as this event was of supreme national importance and pride to the USA (Cold war and space race with the USSR etc), plenty of additional footage was taken 'just in case'.

As an aside there, is a very interesting story concerning Stanley Kubrick's involvement in some of the 'faked' filming (director 2001).

Unfortunately for NASA, who passed some of it off as genuine, it has lived to haunt them, particularly now the advent of modern technology has exposed some of the more obvious 'trickery' used.

Doesn't mean it didn't happen though, and as you say a fascinating topic.

[qapmoc]

Hi hugoboss, well you obviously noticed from the above comments that only very few people in any given population are actually open to ideas ''outside the box'' the fact that it was terrorists is written in stone for most people and no matter how many anomolies and technically unexplained facts stand out they will never change their minds. Me, well I don't know who did it and that may or may not come to light in the end but I am sure that the twin towers did not just fall down, after all they weighed 200,000 tons each and supposedly fell down after 60 ton aircraft hit them and wtc7 was not even hit by anything but it still fell down.
Try to get a copy of the film Painfull Deceptions-911 analysis, the style is very low tech and amateurish with some stupid overlaid text but the content is very interesting.