Man arrested after chasing away yobs with a sword..

[Loosehead]

Stone throwing yobs pelt a man's house and him. They taunt him for weeks and when he chases them away with a sword, guess who the Police arrest? How long do you think it will be before the public say "enough is enough" and start to clear the scum off the streets themselves? What are the police thinking? I used to back the police 100% now I have just lost all confidence in them they are so infiltrated by hand wrininging lefties, they seem only to prefer the soft option. Any coppers here care to explain?

[Loosehead]

sp sorry missed, your "what you would do" post, senior moment!

[Loosehead]

Sp: So you'd have done the same and have slept with a knife under your pillow and yet you still think he's a "psycho". So just what in the world is he supposed to do? What is the legal textbook approach then?

Do you not accept that it is the fact that day to day law and order on the streets has broken down and that this sort of thing is going to become the norm? Do you accept if the police and courts actually punished this lowlife the public may have more confidence? Do you not fear, as I do, the inevitable rise of vigilantes?

I think we are at an impasse, choosing the wrong course could be disasterous.

[sp1814]

Loosehead - you can't have people taking the law into their own hands. I know that's how we feel, but you just can't.

If I were being burgled, I would do my very best to make it look as if I'd been attacked first...but seriously, if I'd chopped the bloke's head off, would I be right?

Naaah...

[sp1814]

Dur - a senior moment from me...didn't realise we'd gone over a page.

Yes - I totally think that when you're wound up to such an extent that you run down the street with a sword...you're not operating rationally.

What if someone completely innocent had seen him running after the kids with a sword, jumped to the wrong conclusion and tackled him...getting stabbed in the process?

That's why you can't have people taking the law into their own hands.

I agree that there are areas in every town and every city where kids have lost respect for themselves and others...but I think we're some way from Dodge City.

[WoWo]

"That's why you can't have people taking the law into their own hands."

Problem is if we don't who will, with all respect to your mate a friend of my is a copper and from what he says they just sit around in a van waiting for some action on a Saturday night.

Case in point phoned the police the other day about kids riding an obviously stolen scooter at on coming traffic, their level of concern was "the green one yeah we know about that". So not only did they know about it they were clearly going to do nothing about it seeing as they carried on for a couple of more hours.

I have been the victim of crime a number of times (serious crime as well) and not once have the police done anything I couldn't have done myself, basically nothing.

Don't know the full facts but would imagine the chain of events was more like, kids throw stones at his house, he rings the Police and they do nothing, this goes on for weeks, then he flips gets his sword out simply to scare them away and hey presto the police pop round.

[LazyGun]

I can empathise with the guy and his feelings of frustration, rage and helplessness... but charging out of his house waving a sword is way over the top as a response.

[Loosehead]

SP: you are missing the point, we all agree you can't have people taking the law into their own hands. No debate there. The problem is that the law does not protect us either and the inevitable result of a frightened public is just that, they will protect themselves if they feel the state has given up on law and order. That's the whole point. Normally rational law abiding people are under seige, frightened, in the end they will conclude that the only way is to protect themselves.

[KebabMeister]

This is one thing I do not miss about Britain. What on earth went wrong for people to act like this? I mean people get drunk, have fights, vandalise cars or property, have no respect for others etc., you simply don't feel safe and if you do try and talk with the offenders then you're liable to be attacked or have your car or property vandalised.

I simply accepted it as part of modern life but after 1 1/2 years in Munich, Germany, it is nothing like that here. Why??? That's something I keep asking myself. It's the complete opposite:- you feel safe, not violence, no yobs, drunks (although they drink tons), very little grafitti.... I've seen 1 fight in 18 months and they were Aussies.

So, do you honestly think this can be reversed in Britain? I don't think it can. I think it's down to culture, newspapers that like to create negative thinking about people we live with or those from other countries. People just seem so tense and can lose their rag almost instantaniously. There's just no respect anymore.

[!ightoftruth]

I would have done the same thing. I am at the stage now where i never go out without a kobotan in my back pocket or a sharpened nail file. Thankfully ive never had to use them. I really do think that what we need is a true vigilante amongst us. Not some angry mob sort but one which will find out these yobs/muggers/drug dealers and drive a nice sharp katana into there bellies. If like in america we had the right to guns and i saaw someone being happyslapped in the street i wouldn't think twice about shooting the perpetarators through the leg.

[PhilBy]

Just as good he was not a British Soldier serving in Iraq or he would be branded a torturer for handing out instant justice to stone/petrol bomb throwing youths.