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Rigged Elections?.
Yes, this was taken from Richard Littlejohns column in THE DAILY MAIL, but I checked the figures on two differnt sites online before posting it.
Labour won the last General Election with 35% of the cast votes,
The Tories have a lead of approximately 38%.
We are told that if they get a 40% lead, and open up a nine point advantage over Labour, they can expect a hung parliament.
Fair or not?.
Your thoughts on this, and please, I know there's one or two on here that like to slate this paper, and me for reading it, can you just keep the comments to the question?. Thanks.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Lonnie, I was really making the same point as the other posts: the system isn't rigged (unlike, say, the gerrymandering that sometimes accompanies boundary redrawing in the USA) but it can be unfair, and 1951 was a striking example of this. But as undercovers says, no party is going to change the system that got them into power, and when it removes them from power again it's too late.
Nonetheless, now - with Labour suspecting they'll lose the next election - might be an interesting time for them to try some electoral reform.
As stated above PR is often favoured by those in opposition but I don't think the Tories would want it. Essentially it does produce what you might call a fairer result but it also produces total paralysis. Ask yourself this, if the Libdems ever won power would they then change the system to their beloved PR? Nope thought so!
The system we have is far from perfect but it's probably as good as it gets.
I agree that the system we have, is probably the best we can hope for, a bit like Democracy itself, its not perfect, and open to manipulation, but its the best there is.
I just have a problem with this goverment, and the way they do thing, and again yes, I know that other goverments, Labour and Tories have done some despicable things, I just think that this goverment is the worst and most crooked we've had, post war. but thats my opnion.
Here are some statistics from the 1997 General Election to highlight the disparity of the 'first past the post' system of voting:
UK voting
(New) Labour - 43.2% vote / 63.4% seats
Conservative - 30.7% vote / 25.0% seats
Lib Democrat - 16.8% vote / 7.0% seats
England voting
(New) Labour - 43.5% vote / 62.0% seats
Conservative - 33.7% vote / 31.2% seats
Lib Democrat - 18.0% vote / 6.4% seats
Scotland voting
(New) Labour - 45.6% vote / 77.8% seats
Conservative - 17.5% vote / 0.0% seats
Lib Democrat - 13.0% vote / 13.9% seats
Wales voting
(New) Labour - 54.7% vote / 85.0% seats
Conservative - 19.6% vote / 0.0% seats
Lib Democrat - 12.3% vote / 5.0% seats
Whilst respecting you opinion Lonnie may I just remind you of few names from the past, they may be beyond living memory of some but only if they are still attending school.....
David Mellor
Tim Yeo
David Ashby
Hartley Booth
Tim Smith
Neil Hamilton
Jonathan Aitken
David Willetts
Sir Nicholas Scott
Lord Archer
Baroness "I was only batting for Britain" Thatcher
The last one of course being in refference to her reply when asked how her son and the companies he represented always seemed to do rather well when as Prime Minister she touted for business from overseas ......... Mark (her son) managed to leave Harrow public school in 1971 with just three O-levels, did not go to university and failed his accountancy exams three times, but has atill gone on to now have an estimated wealth of �60,000,000 (That's Sixty Million)!! .............. Makes ya proud to be British doesn't it!?
For christs sake people wake up and smell the coffee
The advice to join a party which advocates PR is nonsensical. For a start, there are at least two such parties (The Green Party and The Liberal Democrats) meaning that the vote would be divided and therefore, in all likelihood, it would continue not to be represented. Even if The Conservative Party had also been in favour of PR at the last election, Labour would still have held power with 35% of the vote and the majority voice would have gone unheard.
Only electoral reform will solve the problem.
I'm not advocating PR or any other type ove voting system, I just hate this goverment with with every fibre of my being, no other goverment has been so openly sleazily, crooked, and gives the appearance of hating and trying to destroy the country the are supposed to be governing,
Whether anyone likes it or not, those are my feelings and views.
Thanks everyone for your input.
The point I am trying to make is that no other Goverment has ever been put under the media microscope as this lot.... I really do not give a stuff about politicians. I trust them as far as I can spit, but for every accusation I see posted here about this lot, I remember worse happening under the last lot....
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