The Human Rights Act

[flip-flop]

Time to repeal?

As every single day there is a report where one of life's wastes of space has used this piece of legislation to either hide behind or obtain compensation, the latest being the fantastically stupid decision to compensate jailed smack heads, surely the time has now come to repeal this ridiculous Act?

If that means we are required to leave the EU, then so be it - if we leave the EU we may be able to control the unlimited unchecked immigration as well!

[jake-the-peg]

Tell you what - let's repeal the Magna Carta at the same time.

Then we can deal with the problem of daft legislation at source - abolish parliament and set up a dictatorship with you at the helm

[flip-flop]

So would that be a Yes or a No?

[Lonnie]

Generally speaking, I agree, the idea was good, just the execution wasn't, Problem is, you've got to define what a human right is.

As far as i'm concerned, depending on the crime, during the period of incarceration, a prisoner gives up all his/her human rights.

[matt66]

One of the articles of the human rights act talks of 'right to family life'

How does it apply to those in prison who are denied this basic right???.

[jake-the-peg]

If you're asking that Matt you clearly haven't made much effort to find out about it - why not start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Conventi on_on_Human_Rights

Incidently the answer is that most are subject to restrictions that cover imprisonment.

No Lonnie

I rather think Right to life, prohibition of torture, prohibition of slavery, right to a fair trial are kind of important.

Incidently we don't need to repeal it. We can Derrogate or pull out of certain parts should conditions seriously threaten the life of the nation.

The UK derrogated in 2001in order to pass the anti-terrorism bill.

So repealing the bill is unnecessary and undesirable

[admarlow]

We were ok before the bill, I don't think anybody was made to be a slave or anything, and now the Human Rights Bill is the most over used and exploited piece of legislation ever. Why can't we make our laws on common sence and not these airy-fairy, protect everyone (even those who don't deserve to be protected), sue everyone, accuse everyone laws.

[Loosehead]

While it's intentions where good the HRA has been hijacked by money grubbing lawyers to encourage greedy lowlife to sue for all manner of percieved abuses. The trouble is in all of this the general public have effectively had their human rights ignored so that the aforementioned greedy lowlife can sue for ever more ridiculous things. We did not need the HRA it's just anoher part of our subjugation by the EU monster. What we had before in abundance was perfectly acceptable unfortunately it's become very scarces these days, common sense!

Ignore Jake's hysteria, any attack on the lefty mantras produce these leaps of illogic.

[youngmafbog]

There is only one way forward, out of Europe. Ignore all the hand wringing liberal scare mongeres (same ones who said we should dump the pound or be damned) The country can survive, and survive better without paying vast sums of money to meddling European beaurocrats to tell us how to live.
The do-odding pinkos are in a minority they always run scared when someone suggests we take their power from them hence the retoric below. The average good British man wants justice and to be safe on the streets from these scum, they want more jails and the scum to be kept in them without pampering.
As for the HRA, how can any one possibly want to repeal the wicked witches pension plan ?

[Trojanfarce]

Pretty well agree with most of what Loosehead has put forward with the exception that if memory serves correctly, rather than being hijacked by money grubbing lawyers, wasn't the HRA agressively advocated and railroaded through by none other than Cherie Blair? Who's chambers/firm/whatever have made an obscene amount of money from it.
Funny that.

[Loosehead]

you mean trojan it didn't need hijacking! Is was already in the game plan of the money grubber in general, the www!!

[jake-the-peg]

Firstly Youngmafbog the European convention on Human Rights is not to do with the EU or Brussels - If you'd have read my link or even to take the time to find out what you're talking about you'd have discovered this.

I'm not going to waste silicon pointing out all the other myths.

On the very unlikely possibility you might want to test your preconceptions there's a list of Human rights myths here:
http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/issues/ pdfs/the-human-rights-act-exploding-the-myths. PDF

But it doesn't matter because no serious political party - even one lead by Cameron - is going to repeal the act so you can whine and moan all you like it's not going away

[youngmafbog]

JTP, strange that the very link you gave me actully has an article discussind Mr C wanting to scrap the HRA.
An I dissagree with you saying it has nothing to do with the EU. If we did not belong then our PM would not have tried to cosy up to his counterparts by implementing this pile of rubbish apart form to creat his wifes pension plan admittedley.
By the way I am not saying, nor have ever said human rights should not exist. It is this pile of ill thought out rubbish we are lumbered with that is my beef.
Ill thought out and ill administered like most things this pathetic Government and his looney hand wringing do-gooding liberal followers does.

[Loosehead]

Yes as YMB says the HRA is not a dierct remit of the EU we took it on to please our masters. We already had human rights in this country administered by common sense. Now we have prsiners suing because they don't like the decor or the loo faces the wrong way, I mean seriously JTP was it reallt necessary?

[Lonnie]

Regardles of what others say, I just happen to think that people who have Raped, murdered, assaulted children, have given up their right even to be called human, let alone continue to have rights.

[brionon]

Nothing to do with the EU; but you'll blame it anyway.