Well he shouldn't have been driving carelessly then!

[Kathyan]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=yes%2 D-it%2Ds-fine-to-pay-in-5p-%26method=full%26ob jectid=18393959%26siteid=94762-name_page.html

If he hadn't broken the law, he wouldn't have been fined in the first place.

[Gromit]

He is unemployed and says he is struggling to pay the fine yet he is running a car. Shome mishtake shurely.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Eh? That's dodgy logic there Gromit! I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't pay or was falsely accused, but I don't accept that because he's unemployed he can't own a car!

Are you suggesting that everyone who becomes unemployed has to immediately divest themselves of every possession that might be classed as a non-essential?

Perhaps the car is essential to whatever he does for a living - if he's ever to get back into work he may need it - Tonteg looks like it's a pretty small place miles away from anything much.

Perhaps he has a relative in a hospital ten miles away.

Or perhaps some other reason. Maybe none, but you can't tell from the article.

[Gromit]

WaldoMcFroog

Or perhaps us Tax Payers are paying him way too much. Yes, I am suggesting that if you become unemployed you should re-budget your finances to reflect your loss of income. What's wrong with catching a bus like everyone else who cannot afford a car.

If he can still afford this luxury, then he has little incentive to find another job.

[WaldoMcFroog]

And you do this when? As soon as you become unemployed? After a month? 3 months?

Of course you re-budget; that stands to reason. However, a car may not be the luxuary item you seem to think it is, and to argue that if he can afford a car he has little incentive to find a job is complete arsewater.

[Gromit]

You do it when you cannot afford bills like a fine for a crime that you have committed.

[IggyB]

this is a silly article and a silly argument - it doesn't even say he IS still running the car following getting the fine... he may well be catching the bus and saving his pennies. this is a non story, an ex story, this story is no more

[WaldoMcFroog]

But he *can* afford to pay it, and is. He's being a dick about how he does it, but he *is* paying it.

As I read it, amount of the payment is acceptable to the court, the method not.

[flip-flop]

Arsewater.....brilliant, I have never heard that expression before: that has now taken over my perrenial favourite of "that's complete b0110cks"

[joko]

it could be just a cheap old banger that he uses for the kids and perhaps its more his wifes than his?

he is clearly just trying to be a pain though

[maxximus]

have you ever gotten a fine you didn't think was warranted? i know i have. maybe this is how he feels, this being the only protest option he has left, bar not paying it. the article gives no details, as iggyb says. however he is paying it, although he's obviously not happy about it. the idea that he should not own, or be driving a vehicle because he is unemployed though, is simply ridiculous. cheers!