pope

[stokeace]

why is the pope meeting the parents of poor madelline mcann?to apologise for gods actions?do you think there is a god if he sanctions such pain and suffering on his followers?i certainly dont............

[Reverandfunk]

Ace - Don't get me wrong I want her found safe and well like everyone else but:

1. An audience with the Pope
2. Speaking to the Prime Minister Elect
3. Going on a European Tour

What next? Campaigning to ease Third world debt?

These so called parents neglected their child and now are milking it for all its worth the whole "circus" makes me sick. She has been missing for nearly a month and the chances of a safe return are practically zero. It's already been done to death.

What about an audinece with the Police charging them for not taking proper care of their kids.

[stokeace]

i agree 100% if they were over here and it happened im sure social services would be involved and their other kids would be placed on an at risk register.funny old world rev..

[Bazile]

stokeace

From what you say , you do not beleive in a god - and that is your choice , of course .

I was just wondering though , do you ever call on god's name when you are in a spot of bother / taken aback /suprised etc - you know , something like :-

' O my god '
'Jesus Christ '
'Christ '
'O god '
etc
If yes - then who / what are you referringh to - and why ?

[Bazile]

saintpeter48

I note that you think people are idiots , because they have beliefs that you dont have .
So you are a wise person are you - in who's eyes ?

Are you deliberately trying to offend , or are you just naturally , obnoxious ?

[stokeace]

if i ever do say anything like that bazile it would be just an expression and not a prayer to god.i dont understand how there could be a god when he condones such misery on the human race anyway...............

[B00]

What is wrong with you people????

If attending church and meeting the Pope gives one tiny iota of relief to these poor people, who are you to sneer at it?

My heart goes out to this poor couple, and it simply beggars belief that many folk are watching their every move now suspiciously. And even if they are milking every single media attention possible, can you blame them? They are doing, what they can to help get their child back.

Hopefully none of us will EVER experience their pain, it's just a shame that we seem incapable of empathising with them.

[Bazile]

stokeace - the christian belief is that God does not condone suffering by humans on their fellow humans

Humans are given FREE WILL to choose how they live their lives , and if you beleive that death is not the end ( or indeed if you do ) it is up to you to decide what sort of person you choose to be .

God is not a dictator - nor does he sits there somewhere determining and imposing his will on what goes on from day to day on the earth

[jump82]

I suppose the parents are trying to get some sort of comfort in their mind and conscience, afterall, it's religion that most people turn to (even the atheists) when situations seem hopeless and completely out of their hands...

As for blaming God for this, remember none of this would have happened if the parents had only been a little more cautious about their children ... cause and consequence and all that. If anything, it has made parents around the world much more aware when it comes to taking care of their children, who knows how many other would-be missing children cases have been prevented as a result?
I really do hope Maddy is found nevertheless, she doesn't deserve to suffer for her parents mistake.

[wired]

I don't think that the parents are having a private audience with the Pope, anyone who is going to visit the vatican can apply for one of the Wednesday visits where you are in a general audience.It does worry me that all of the publicity could be causing more harm than good( for the child) and that this is becoming more about the parents but hey, isn't that how it all started.

[pilchard]

Reverandfunk

"These so called parents neglected their child and now are milking it for all its worth the whole "circus" makes me sick. She has been missing for nearly a month and the chances of a safe return are practically zero. It's already been done to death.

What about an audinece with the Police charging them for not taking proper care of their kids. "

What! This is a child, not a stolen wallet or purse, which you could accept never seeing again. The search should never stop. How can you be so flippant? Blame isn't the important thing here and focusing on the punishing the parents should be the last thing on peoples minds. Is your opinion that because they left her alone they don't deserve their daughter back as some sort of punishment?

Do you think its that easy to wake up one morning and decide that you have searched enough and she probably won't be coming back, so lets pack up and go home and forget about her?

[Reverandfunk]

Pilchard if you think she is going to be found safe and well you are either thick/stupid or both. Yes they have got to wake up every morning and think about it and you know what - GOOD.

They are the only ones to blame, they have to live with it for the rest of their lives the only loser is the child through no fault of her own.

[Reverandfunk]

BOO your heart goes out to them does it? Why exactly.

If I went on the lash for an hour to the pub left my kids alone and one got abducted what would you say to me??

[B00]

My heart goes out to them reverand (hah!) because I'm a normal human being with compassion. Try looking that word up in a dictionary, as, you seem to devoid of it.

Your posts make disturbing reading- you seem pleased, yes pleased that these people are going through Hell and back.

It's very rare I get emotional on AB, particular towards another user, but I've found your comments regarding this particular case repulsive. You sir are one person I never wish to never meet should I require assistance of some sort from another human being.

[dyli795]

Nah, the universe is just too big to have some M.D. looking after it all. What's in it for Him anyway?

[pilchard]

Reverandpunk

I am neither stupid or thick, but you are very arrogant and unfeeling. Yes she may still be found, a recent story from Austria springs to mind and she was missing for eight years. God help anyone related to you, that is if you actually have anyone that you love unconditionally and vice a versa.

I don't for one minute think you have really thought about this and or even thought about putting yourself in there shoes. I could think of many scenarios that we could force who was to blame..

Attractive woman out late on her own - raped - her fault should be locked up after dark.

Big House - burgled - owners fault because it obvious that there would be nice things in there and fancy the occupants going out.

Bank - armed robbery - fancy having cash in there, crazy world.

Wife beaten by husband - her fault maybe she should do as she is told or maybe not considered marriage at all.

Lock your children up or never leave them for even a second and the offender adapts... one way or another they will get to your children.

Have you ever been a victim of crime or violence? If you have please tell us about it and we can then apportion the blame for you.

Where do you draw the line?

[NiceCupOfTea]

I really hope his prayers work, even though I'm not a massive believer. Whatever might work you'd give it a shot wouldn't you? I would be desperate for solace if I were her parents and I hope this gives them it, even if it's only for a minute.

The abductors are the only ones to blame for this particular hell, please don't forget that.

[gina32]

nicecupoftea, why are the"abductors" not forgeting that we dont know yet if she has been abducted, the only ones to balme? how can you possibly say that, the parents left her on her own while they went out for a meal, the only people to blame are the parents no one else. if she is found say in a ditch would you blame the people who dug the ditch??? likewise if she took pills would you blame the doctor who prescribed them, of course you wouldnt, its the parent fault 100%

[B00]

Oh yeah, so lets kick them while they are well and truly on the ground eh Gina?

[gina32]

boo get a life i was just doing an example, the only people to blame are the parents end of

[tiggerwoo]

What about this scenario for all you supporters of Kate and Jerry Macann who you insist are blameless for whatever has happend to their little daughter.
Say you had entrusted the care of your small child to them...if your daughter was Madeleines friend for instance and they had invited her along on holiday with them. You probably would have agreed to it and thought "what possible harm could come to her in the care of two responsible people..doctors as well??????
So off they go for a lovely holiday, but then something terrible happens...the unthinkable...your child goes missing from their apartment at night whilst the Macanns have gone out for a meal with their friends. They give you all the excuses they've given ev
eryone now about how "everyone leaves their kids" etc etc and that you should'nt blame them...it's not their fault....
Well.............would you blame them...would you????
Yes of course you damn well would...with all your heart you would....you have trusted them to look after your precious daughter and they have gone off out to dine with their friends and left her ALONE in an UNLOCKED apartment...left her to her fate and god knows what else.
Now.........are you still feeling so charitable...now are you empathising with them........I doubt it..I very much doubt it.