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Kill a hoodie?
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I am getting more and more apalled every time I hear of another innocent death at the hands of Yobs or Hoodies. I know it isn`t legal, but why can`t we all go out and kill one hoodie each, thus distributing fear amongst them, in the same way they distill fear into others.
I am certain, that if someone does, people of Britain will unite and be 100% behind the person willing to take a stand.
Actually, on the same note, can`t Britain declare war on itself and let the army deal with street crime, drug crime and violent gun crime, like if they were in another country with a zero tolerance attitude? Worth thinking about...
I am certain, that if someone does, people of Britain will unite and be 100% behind the person willing to take a stand.
Actually, on the same note, can`t Britain declare war on itself and let the army deal with street crime, drug crime and violent gun crime, like if they were in another country with a zero tolerance attitude? Worth thinking about...
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Ghostrider, I wouldn't normally disagree with you, because you usually tend to talk sense, but this time....
In a way, I'd say yes, lets do something to get the crime off the streets, but on the other hand, my 18yr old son wears hoodies, because they're the fashion. If anyone ever harmed him, I'd swing for them (if this dozy government ever brought back capital punishment!) I have very strong views on crime and punishment, but unfortunately, the police these days seem more hell-bent on getting the easy targets & not going after the real criminals.
In a way, I'd say yes, lets do something to get the crime off the streets, but on the other hand, my 18yr old son wears hoodies, because they're the fashion. If anyone ever harmed him, I'd swing for them (if this dozy government ever brought back capital punishment!) I have very strong views on crime and punishment, but unfortunately, the police these days seem more hell-bent on getting the easy targets & not going after the real criminals.
Sorry if this question is misunderstood..... I have nothing against hoodies, just the hoodie gangs that are intent on causing grief and suffering. I want to get some anger out of my system.
Thinking about it my niece wears a hoodie, and I would protect her with my life.
Is there any ideas on how we can tackle this problem?
Thinking about it my niece wears a hoodie, and I would protect her with my life.
Is there any ideas on how we can tackle this problem?
Who is going to help us decide who is an innocent fashionable hoodie and who is a viscious knife wielding gang member?
Are you planning to head up the crusade pointing out victims from your armour car as those you pick out are dragged off and murdered by your henchmen?
I think you mey be just edging into power-crazed-fantasy-land.
No more late night Action Movies for you for a while!
Are you planning to head up the crusade pointing out victims from your armour car as those you pick out are dragged off and murdered by your henchmen?
I think you mey be just edging into power-crazed-fantasy-land.
No more late night Action Movies for you for a while!
i actually feel sorry for the police, it must be so disheartening for them to do their job, then go to court to see the menial and paltry sentences handed out. our local paper always has the same names over and over again, fine, community service, restriction of liberty, etc. Bang them up for 3 yrs every time and i mean 3 whole years. the money saved on court, witness attendance, their legal aid in most cases could go towards converting a disused island (ALCATRAZ STYLE) to keep them on. Its the Lawlords who are responsible for the state of the country. Bet they dont live in a scheme, Maybe we should have a big brother type show where 12 lawlords have to live among the gang regions.
Children aren't born "hoodies". If these kids were born in say a small village in Africa (or a remote village in Scotland) they would not become hoodies, go around in gangs, or be a menace to society.
So therefore it is the society they grow up in that makes them that way.
And for that we all take the blame.
The blame for not pressuring goverments and councils to get rid of the drug problem.
The blame for allowing almost all corner shops and supermarkets to sell alcohol when it used to be limited to off licenses.
The blame for alowing extreme violent computer games and voilent films to be shown.
The blame for not helping with the scouts, or other organizations, that give kids something to do.
The blame for being in a money grabbing society where both parents go out to work, and for encouraging a society when we are pleased when house prices go up.
The blame for allowing familes to live off benefits, and not work and have pride in the fact they do work.
And before any of you say it is not YOUR fault, it is ALL or faults.
If we sit back and do nothing while governments and councils do so much to encourage the problems (like the availability of alcohol or the lack of police) then we are all to blame.
Society is a collection of people, and if as a people we allow our society to get out of hand like it has then it is all our fault.
So therefore it is the society they grow up in that makes them that way.
And for that we all take the blame.
The blame for not pressuring goverments and councils to get rid of the drug problem.
The blame for allowing almost all corner shops and supermarkets to sell alcohol when it used to be limited to off licenses.
The blame for alowing extreme violent computer games and voilent films to be shown.
The blame for not helping with the scouts, or other organizations, that give kids something to do.
The blame for being in a money grabbing society where both parents go out to work, and for encouraging a society when we are pleased when house prices go up.
The blame for allowing familes to live off benefits, and not work and have pride in the fact they do work.
And before any of you say it is not YOUR fault, it is ALL or faults.
If we sit back and do nothing while governments and councils do so much to encourage the problems (like the availability of alcohol or the lack of police) then we are all to blame.
Society is a collection of people, and if as a people we allow our society to get out of hand like it has then it is all our fault.
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A very good question and one with which I have great empathy. It's not practical though, however desirable.
I have said before on here, it is too late for Britain. I cross the road when I see any collection of youths because I don't want even the hint of a confrontation (ave you got 20p for the phone mate, yer wheel's goin round mate, etc). And again, why ? Because any of them might have a knife, or even a gun.
We can't rack things up and send in the police, you can't police 8-12 yr olds. Down to me, I would slaughter anybody with more than 2 tattooes, calling me 'chiz mate', or thinking 'how can I steal from or in any way threaten another person in order to gain a few more cans of beer for meself guv, mate, chiz.'
Britain is finished, scuppered by Political Correctness.
I have said before on here, it is too late for Britain. I cross the road when I see any collection of youths because I don't want even the hint of a confrontation (ave you got 20p for the phone mate, yer wheel's goin round mate, etc). And again, why ? Because any of them might have a knife, or even a gun.
We can't rack things up and send in the police, you can't police 8-12 yr olds. Down to me, I would slaughter anybody with more than 2 tattooes, calling me 'chiz mate', or thinking 'how can I steal from or in any way threaten another person in order to gain a few more cans of beer for meself guv, mate, chiz.'
Britain is finished, scuppered by Political Correctness.
Don't know if any of you have noticed...but it ain't just teenager gang members.
Check out this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6979026.stm
Bet no-one would ever raise a question about this case, because we're all looking in one direction.
By the way, I agree with veryhelpfulguy's post apart from the bit about computer games and films.
Check out this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6979026.stm
Bet no-one would ever raise a question about this case, because we're all looking in one direction.
By the way, I agree with veryhelpfulguy's post apart from the bit about computer games and films.
Personally I think the work of Camilla Batmanghelidjh is the way to go when it comes to solving the problems with disturbed and violent teens.
We lack foresight when it comes to parenting in our society. We need realise how you treat that baby or toddler will affect the way their brain develops affecting their mental health and behaviour for the rest of their lives.
Our approach shouldn't just be about punishing offenders but about preventing it in the first place and helping those already in trouble to stop.
We lack foresight when it comes to parenting in our society. We need realise how you treat that baby or toddler will affect the way their brain develops affecting their mental health and behaviour for the rest of their lives.
Our approach shouldn't just be about punishing offenders but about preventing it in the first place and helping those already in trouble to stop.
just to add this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,177 6259,00.html
vehelpfulguy makes some very good points, including the point about violent computer games and films, (sorry sp1814)
But I must disagree regarding allowing the corner shop and supermarkets to sell alcohol when it used to be limited to off licenses. I cannot see the difference between the corner shop and the old off licenses.
The corner shop owner has to go through quite a vetting with rules and regulations of what amount of area of his shop is used and where he can display his stock etc, etc. He also has to go on a course, and he is checked out by the Police and then has to go before a magistrate's court, before he is granted a licence to sell alcohol and tobacco.
There is more onus put on the corner shop owner than any other out-let, and he can have his licence taken away from him over the lease infringment of the rules. Can the same be said of the Supermarkets or the bars, clubs and pubs? I have never heard of one.
Perhaps the supermarkets should be curtailed when it comes to the amount they are allowed to sell a customer in the same way as they are regarding the amount of Paracetamol tablets they can sell one.
Most of the time these kids obtain their booze either from raiding their parents stock in the garage, or getting an older person to purchase it for them.
But also the police should take strong action against the under-aged drinkers as they do against a rogue shopkeeper who is caught selling them booze. At the moment this does not happen if a kid is caught drinking in the street the Police will take the drink away from them and pour it down the drain. They can then be seen laughing and joking with the youngsters (winning hearts and minds they say) I say enough is enough get tough.
But I must disagree regarding allowing the corner shop and supermarkets to sell alcohol when it used to be limited to off licenses. I cannot see the difference between the corner shop and the old off licenses.
The corner shop owner has to go through quite a vetting with rules and regulations of what amount of area of his shop is used and where he can display his stock etc, etc. He also has to go on a course, and he is checked out by the Police and then has to go before a magistrate's court, before he is granted a licence to sell alcohol and tobacco.
There is more onus put on the corner shop owner than any other out-let, and he can have his licence taken away from him over the lease infringment of the rules. Can the same be said of the Supermarkets or the bars, clubs and pubs? I have never heard of one.
Perhaps the supermarkets should be curtailed when it comes to the amount they are allowed to sell a customer in the same way as they are regarding the amount of Paracetamol tablets they can sell one.
Most of the time these kids obtain their booze either from raiding their parents stock in the garage, or getting an older person to purchase it for them.
But also the police should take strong action against the under-aged drinkers as they do against a rogue shopkeeper who is caught selling them booze. At the moment this does not happen if a kid is caught drinking in the street the Police will take the drink away from them and pour it down the drain. They can then be seen laughing and joking with the youngsters (winning hearts and minds they say) I say enough is enough get tough.
Agree with VHG (though jury still out on computer games/ videos)
What have you done to help the problem? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6978350.stm Are you a role model to kids?
It also amazes me that people who complain about yob behaviour and intimidation go on to a family site and then use swear words (in fact even deliberately misspell swear words to get around the censor)
What have you done to help the problem? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6978350.stm Are you a role model to kids?
It also amazes me that people who complain about yob behaviour and intimidation go on to a family site and then use swear words (in fact even deliberately misspell swear words to get around the censor)
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