Heroin Hell .How much worse can it get?

[musicmummy]

Sick to the pitt of my stomach, the Sunday Mail carried a story today with a picture of a junkie comatose in a school doorway with his Kit beside him. His four year old asleep in his arms and his six month old screaming ten foot away in its buggy. God help these kids. K.

[Bewlay Bros]

musicmummy, I completely agree. However, there are idiots (many on here) who want to legalise these vile narcotics.

Heroin destroys families, and in some area, even communities. Our boys in Afghanistan are fighting a drugs war as well as a war on the taliban. So hopefully they destroy some more poppy fields along with the enemy.

Then we have "media" celebrities like Pete Doherty and the equally foul Russel Brand who glamourize drugs. I suppose it's OK when you have a million pound record deal. They are not going to rob off their own granny are they?

The only good that comes out of heroin is sometimes the users die. At least that way, any children of these monsters can be taken in to care and hopefully have a loving family.

Death to the drug czars!!!!!

[howdy]

Wardy, you couldn't speak more truthfully. I feel sorry for the children of now and those to come; it will only get worst.

[musicmummy]

Cant beleive they are still with the father, that is shocking. Social Work.... get it sorted.

[beryllium]

Just adding the otherside here....

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/artic le2180759.ece

[paulos66]

Belway, how many more years before you realise a war on drugs is unwinnable - legalise and legislate.
The only way to break the link between drugs and crime is to legalize all drugs.
Prohibition does not and never will work

[Reverandfunk]

i agree with paulo

[Gromit]

1400 drug related deaths
8400 alcohol related

Alcohol deaths in the UK are rising
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id =1091

Drug deaths in the UK are declining
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/32796 .php

Children of alcoholics suffer just as much as children of Junkies suffer, but you do not see emotive photographs like the one you describe in the question.

[Reverandfunk]

I agree with gromit, these "people" will become addicted to whatever is to hand be it alcohol, paint stripper, domestos whatever. Its that dirty underclass again, people who shouldn't become parents but invariably do.

[jake-the-peg]

Thank you for your concern Reverend as an Ex-drinker I now see I am officially - Underclass!

Wake up!

The majority of people with drink and drug problems are not those rolling in the gutter and those musicmummy reads about in the mail

Those are the tip of the iceberg - most are "respectable middle-class people" snorting coke on nights out before they exhaust their funds or sucumb to an early heart attack.

Sorry did I confuse middle-class and working class drugs there?

[daffy654]

musicmummy do you have a link to the story on the mail on sunday website or was it only in the actual paper? I'd like to read the story if possible but can't find it.

[Reverandfunk]

Jake get from up yr own ar5e

The underclass, whose parents were alkies and druggies, terrible parents, their kids become the same and just keep repeating the cycle.

[Gromit]

The story is in the Sunday Mail, not to be confused with the Mail on Sunday

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news /2007/11/25/heroin-hell-of-120-000-children-78 057-20157967/

[daffy654]

Thanks for the link gromit. I didn't know there were two papers with very similar names.

[Gromit]

legend007

Your figures are newer and do indeed show a increase for the first time in several years, the trend over the last decade has been a decrease in deaths. Also the figures include people who did not die from drugs.

�The latest figures from np-SAD show a rise from 2005. However, these figures are not an accurate reflection of deaths due to the differing measuring processes. The np-SAD figures take into account all psychoactive drugs, illegal or not, and refer to all types of deaths if the person is a known drug user. This could include a drug user who died in an accident when not intoxicated."

[Bewlay Bros]

Yet again the argument about drink and drugs becomes linked again.

I drink, according to many figures I drink far too much.

My friends drink, my family drink. Sometimes, God forgive, we get drunk. I know, how terrible.

However, get it through your stupid thick skulls alcohol is LEGAL. Alcohol is SOCIAL. Alcohol does not make little Jimmy rob his own granny to inject up a collapsed veined arm. Alcohol is a culture, drugs are a subculture made up of lonely, sad acts who frankly eserve to die. They are a burden on the NHS, a burden on the Police and a burden on society. They are little more than filth. Filthy, depraved weirdos who have no place in the human chain.

Alcohol, I agree, does have its downfalls. But this related deaths. It is not alcohol per ce causing the death. It is the life style. Very few people actually die of alcohol poisioning, yes some do. But the death rate comes from sceloris (sp) of the liver which is long term, or the general lifestyle of the drinkers.

However, druggies die all the time just injecting or during crack hits.

Also you don't get drive by shootings because Winston is selling alcohol cheaper that Leroy. Or Jerrmain owes Ngango 25k for a vodka deal do you???

Hog wash.

DEATH TO NOT ONLY DRUG CZARS BUT TO USERS AS WELL. SCUM OF THE EARTH.