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calls for Our National Anthem to be changed
On ITV's TELETEXT today, I see a news story with former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith saying that some of the words of Britain's national anthem are 'not inclusive' and might need replacing. Apparently Goldsmith reckons 'strong feelings about national symbols have to be taken into account'.
What is it with this nation - why do we let so many foreigners in and then change our ways and traditions to suit them, rather than making them accept ours? Can this trend be reversed, or is it too late? What chance do you think of other nations (like Pakistan, India or Sudan, for example) changing their ways and traditions to suit any Brits living there?
What is it with this nation - why do we let so many foreigners in and then change our ways and traditions to suit them, rather than making them accept ours? Can this trend be reversed, or is it too late? What chance do you think of other nations (like Pakistan, India or Sudan, for example) changing their ways and traditions to suit any Brits living there?
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flipnflap,
Here are the verses you didn't know. I didn't google these either, and I typed them all myself from memory...
"Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world over.
From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!
Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"
Here are the verses you didn't know. I didn't google these either, and I typed them all myself from memory...
"Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world over.
From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!
Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"
Gromit
Where are those three verses from?
I thought there were only three verses, not six???
Anyway, the point is - many people don't know the national anthem past the first verse.
Remember when John Redwood embarrassed himself when he was secretary of state for Wales (mumbling along to the anthem which he obviously didn't know)...well a lot of us would be in exactly the same position if we were called on to sing our own national anthem past verse one.
Where are those three verses from?
I thought there were only three verses, not six???
Anyway, the point is - many people don't know the national anthem past the first verse.
Remember when John Redwood embarrassed himself when he was secretary of state for Wales (mumbling along to the anthem which he obviously didn't know)...well a lot of us would be in exactly the same position if we were called on to sing our own national anthem past verse one.
Here is your post, flipnflap.
LUCY THOMAS, THE FACT THAT FOOTBALLERS DON'T ALL SING IT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO LEARN IT NOR WANTED TO. AND WHY SHOULD THEY? IT'S NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
So that's EXACTLY what you've said.
You are correct though in saying that most footballers are not the brightest but that is not stated in this answer so my reply was correct.
LUCY THOMAS, THE FACT THAT FOOTBALLERS DON'T ALL SING IT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO LEARN IT NOR WANTED TO. AND WHY SHOULD THEY? IT'S NOT TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
So that's EXACTLY what you've said.
You are correct though in saying that most footballers are not the brightest but that is not stated in this answer so my reply was correct.
sp1814
The full version has six verses. usually only the first verse is sung, and only occasionally three. The fourth, fifth and six verses are seldom sung, but it is the sixth, with its line about crushing rebellious scots which is the cause of the anthem being judged offensive.
There are other unofficial, alternative and commemorative verses.
The full version has six verses. usually only the first verse is sung, and only occasionally three. The fourth, fifth and six verses are seldom sung, but it is the sixth, with its line about crushing rebellious scots which is the cause of the anthem being judged offensive.
There are other unofficial, alternative and commemorative verses.
Delightful detective work sp. I nearly choked on my advent calendar.
So in short, a little known verse in the national anthem that 99% of people weren't even aware of let alone sing along to is used to whip up a bit of immigrant mistrust? Tut tut.
I'm surprised this isn't sung in local derbies between England and Scotland. Bet it would go down a treat in the stands.
So in short, a little known verse in the national anthem that 99% of people weren't even aware of let alone sing along to is used to whip up a bit of immigrant mistrust? Tut tut.
I'm surprised this isn't sung in local derbies between England and Scotland. Bet it would go down a treat in the stands.
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