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Binge drinking
Just reading the Manchester evening news front page from Feb 6th 1958 which incidentally cost 3d old money there is a report about the evil of young girls drinking in Oldham nothing new there then ? Why do we get so obssessed by this subject.
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I suspect the Manchester Guardian from 1908 was probably running stories about drinking too much as well.
It is strange that every generation seems to think it is encountering problems for the first time and everything was rosey in the past. Binge drinking, anti social behaviour, crime and immigration are nothing new. We have been dealing with these problems for centuries.
And, unfortunately, it sells newspapers.
It is strange that every generation seems to think it is encountering problems for the first time and everything was rosey in the past. Binge drinking, anti social behaviour, crime and immigration are nothing new. We have been dealing with these problems for centuries.
And, unfortunately, it sells newspapers.
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We know all this Gromit but we are now supposed to be civilsed, and should have come along way from the Gin Palaces etc of the distant past.
It's as bad as making excuses for that rabble in Kenya, who are still in the middle ages using bows and arrows, machetes, and burning people.
Do we just sit back, try to make excuses, while leting things revert back to the days when we where savages? Or should we show concern now and take strong measures to stop this ever increasing violence, and murder?
Yet another person hacked to death with a samurai sword, in an argument over a ball, I see.
We know all this Gromit but we are now supposed to be civilsed, and should have come along way from the Gin Palaces etc of the distant past.
It's as bad as making excuses for that rabble in Kenya, who are still in the middle ages using bows and arrows, machetes, and burning people.
Do we just sit back, try to make excuses, while leting things revert back to the days when we where savages? Or should we show concern now and take strong measures to stop this ever increasing violence, and murder?
Yet another person hacked to death with a samurai sword, in an argument over a ball, I see.
Congratulations AOG,
You manage to change the subject from young girls drinking to black savages in your answer. Well done.
My point was that it is not a case of reverting back, because these problems has always been there and never been solved.
Are you saying your parents and grandparents weren't civilised?
You manage to change the subject from young girls drinking to black savages in your answer. Well done.
My point was that it is not a case of reverting back, because these problems has always been there and never been solved.
Are you saying your parents and grandparents weren't civilised?
Lets wait and see what our cr@p government does to try and "address" this lastest threat to society. Will they crack down on shops selling drink to underage boozers and step up police patrols to their drinking dens? Or will they just ramp up the tax on alcohol and say that will stop them, whilst simultaneously penalising the decent majority?
Of course the problem has always existed, but not to the extent we have today.
In the 60"s & 70"s, it was generally restricted to a Friday or Sat. evening, unlike the present day, where it seems to be almost every evening of the week.
What interests me, is how the present generation can afford to binge drink so often, given the prices charged today.
It was also a mainly male pastime, not that I have anything against women drinkers, they just did"nt do in my day.
In the 60"s & 70"s, it was generally restricted to a Friday or Sat. evening, unlike the present day, where it seems to be almost every evening of the week.
What interests me, is how the present generation can afford to binge drink so often, given the prices charged today.
It was also a mainly male pastime, not that I have anything against women drinkers, they just did"nt do in my day.
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I have just watched "Who do you think you are" with Jeremy Paxman where they look back at his family roots.
One of his relatives (about 100 years ago i think) was in the Salvation Army. They showed a photo of her in her bonnet.
A man from the salvation army said the bonnet was very strong because of the abuse they got.
In those days the Salvation army was not liked by everyone (I guess maybe their campaign against drinking) and Salvation army members were often attacked and had stones and rotten eggs thrown at them.
So things have always been a bit rough on the streets.
One of his relatives (about 100 years ago i think) was in the Salvation Army. They showed a photo of her in her bonnet.
A man from the salvation army said the bonnet was very strong because of the abuse they got.
In those days the Salvation army was not liked by everyone (I guess maybe their campaign against drinking) and Salvation army members were often attacked and had stones and rotten eggs thrown at them.
So things have always been a bit rough on the streets.
>The problem is nothing new, we can go back to medieval >England & it was going on then
In fact in medieval England EVERYONE drank alcohol, because it was the only safe thing to drink.
There was no running water as such, and river water could be contaminated with sewage, dead bodies (animal or human) and other waste.
When Beer was brewed they used the same ingredients and brewed them 3 times.
The first "brew" was the strongest (XXX) and was for the men.
The second brew was weaker and was for the women and old people.
The third brew was very weak and this was for the children.
So everyone drank Beer almost from the day they were born.
In fact in medieval England EVERYONE drank alcohol, because it was the only safe thing to drink.
There was no running water as such, and river water could be contaminated with sewage, dead bodies (animal or human) and other waste.
When Beer was brewed they used the same ingredients and brewed them 3 times.
The first "brew" was the strongest (XXX) and was for the men.
The second brew was weaker and was for the women and old people.
The third brew was very weak and this was for the children.
So everyone drank Beer almost from the day they were born.
Your right amsterdammer,in the Sixties it was just the weekend we could afford to get pi$$ed, plus the beer was a lot weaker.Now they can buy cheap strong lager from any supermarket,get tanked up before they go out,and smoke that nasty strong skunk.We smoked good quality gear and drunk bottles of taunton cyder (:O) .Having said that,there were a few fights outside the pubs but very rarely did anybody use a knife,and guns were unheard off.I dont know about people out drinking every night,one pub round here has closed down since the smoking ban,and most of the pubs have gone dead during the week.Its not just down to the S.B...its the price of a pint...but there stoned out of there box before they hit the pub and they just cant handle the mixture of strong grass and strong lager.We all know there's always been fights, but the use of weapons is a bit of a pi$$ off.
Cheer up....your a long time Dead..yo (:O)
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With 24 hour round the clock tv news, radio news, newspapers and internet we hear of the same news item several times a day - and for several days after that, often.
One serious incident could have coverage for a week then another week at the trial some months after.
It makes things just seem a lot worse than they really are - information overload.
One serious incident could have coverage for a week then another week at the trial some months after.
It makes things just seem a lot worse than they really are - information overload.
You manage to change the subject from young girls drinking to black savages in your answer. Well done.
Please put on your reading specs Gromit, talk about the Daily Mail mis-reporting.
Were did I mention the word "BLACK" when referring to savages? but then in your usual liberal/lefty thinking way,it does make my posting sound much more controversial.
Are you saying your parents and grandparents weren't civilised?
Once again, what we have come to expect, the usual Gromit manipulation of words.
My exact words:
Do we just sit back, try to make excuses, while letting things revert back to the days when we where savages?
Do these words make any reference to my parents and grandparents being savages? No The exact words were "while letting things revert back to the days when we where savages". I did not mention any particular age, I was referring to an age when all the people on earth were savages.
But then your way makes it much more of a personal insult doesn't it Gromit. I expected more from you, but just lately you are getting more and more like that nutter B Bros.
Please put on your reading specs Gromit, talk about the Daily Mail mis-reporting.
Were did I mention the word "BLACK" when referring to savages? but then in your usual liberal/lefty thinking way,it does make my posting sound much more controversial.
Are you saying your parents and grandparents weren't civilised?
Once again, what we have come to expect, the usual Gromit manipulation of words.
My exact words:
Do we just sit back, try to make excuses, while letting things revert back to the days when we where savages?
Do these words make any reference to my parents and grandparents being savages? No The exact words were "while letting things revert back to the days when we where savages". I did not mention any particular age, I was referring to an age when all the people on earth were savages.
But then your way makes it much more of a personal insult doesn't it Gromit. I expected more from you, but just lately you are getting more and more like that nutter B Bros.
