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bodylice | 22:03 Wed 12th Mar 2008 | News
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Article on BBC London News tonight. White people are leaving London, and it is rascally claimed that this is because they don't want to live with Black and Asian and ethnic minorities (etc, you know the score by now).

Multiculturalism has failed spectacularly, there are multi cultures because people have different cultures which they wish to preserve.

Gun crime, knife crime, street violence - don't even go there, that's racism.

The whites are decamping however. Plain fact.
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I have lived in London for over 14 years. But last year I moved to Devon only because houses over there are cheaper even the bigger ones when you need with family. But honestly for almost one year I could not find a job there so in the end decided to move back to London.

Luckily the house I had in London was let out and not sold so we have a chance to move back. So my point is that if there are opportunities outside big cities then people would scatter around.
To everton- I've lived in Oldham all my life, but you are the first person I've ever known to use the term "Asian quarter" regarding my town! I'd be interested to know where exactly you mean. Incidentally, the riots you refer to were stirred up by a combination of hot weather, cheap booze, and white youths under the influence of the BNP.
It was around the Maple Mill area (very hard building to find if you don't know the area) everyone on the street was Asian (alot in traditional clothing, no quarrel with that) the shops appeared to be mostly Asian owned (again no quarrel with that) I'm not having a go at any one group or emphasising any point, I was looked at (as I drove down the road) by alot of people (Asian) in a hostile manner (tensions were obviously building in the community because shortly after there were riots, maybe that had something to do with it?), I felt uncomfortable. But I got out and spoke to someone and was treated equitably.
It was just a true story offered witout comment.
Ok everton, fairy nuff. As u were. Bath x
stokemaveric

You don't understand my point.

British life has changed immeasurably over the past fifty years. Immigration is only one component of it.

Surely that was clear from my post???
stokemaveric

Seriously - your post is quite ridiculous.

Read 'Never Had It So Good' by Dominic Sandbrook. I beg you to throw off your shackles.
I know this is supposed to be a crying-and-wailing Bad News thread.

But I just can't join in with the boo-hooing.

Assuming it's true, intolerant Londoners are moving out of the city...

...meaning that there are number of intolerant people in London is going down...

...meaning that the level of tolerance in London is going up.

That gets a double thumbs up from me! Cheers and enjoy the shires!
Yes Britain has certainly changed but not for the better I'm afraid, but it is not only down to immigration.

Yes mass immigration has caused the largest change, far too much over such a fairly short period of time.

The wrong type of immigrant, ie.bringing in with them their own culture and diverse life styles, that in most cases doesn't fit in with our own ancient culture.

This is not being racist, I and many others do not care either for the British dependant on benefits culture, who adopt a slovenly life style, and refuse to work. Or the travelling communities that pay no taxes, and leave areas trashed and rubbish filled when they move on.

One can say another cause of change, as been an abused Benefits System.

Another cause of change has been our entry into Europe, but that is a problem all of it's own.
AOG - very nicely put.
White people are moving out of London because of that worst of ethnic minorities Ken Livingstone.

If he buys his way in again with votes gained by giving grants and jobs to his thick fiddling mates and one direction support to those hopeless people who vote for hand outs no matter where the source...

Then there will be a mass exodus of the people who actually contribute to London, then we will see how much money Livingstone has got to waste,

There is a direct link which shows that you can only be a successful grabber if there are enough givers around to contribute to your grubby pot.
Cultures evolve. They evolve faster now than ever thanks to global mass media and the ease of long distance travel.

Go to Morrocco. They wear Man United shirts and jeans, listen to Western pop music and talk good English. They're not opposed to alcohol being served and they often eat chips with their meals. That's not because of a massive influx of Mancunians. That's because the world is getting smaller and cultures meld into one another.

Of course, immigration does affect our culture, but it's not the decisive factor. Blame globalisation.

For me, the most laughable thing about AOG and his ilk is the assumption that there's a consensus among all non-immigrants in the UK that we want our culture to stay exactly as it was. Embrace the change. You might like it. If you don't, keep doing what you're doing. No-one's stopping you.
It's also interesting to note (and I hope this doesn't offend) that the ones who complain loudest about retaining our culture tend to be the ones least interested in it.

These people show no interest in British literature, theatre, film-making, architecture or art. They really don't.

If William Shakespeare was around now, you'd be totally ignoring him in favour of the latest Hollywood (that's in America, guys) blockbuster.

What is this cultural shift that you fear so much? Oh no, they're building a mosque on a brownfield site - prime land that could have been used to build a Carpetworld or a Drive-Thru McDonalds. Or another church that would never get used.
Quinlad

What do you think you are doing?

Where are your rants, bigotry and insults? Your last post was reasoned, well argued and clearly sensible.

Surely this isn't the sort of posting we should expect on News.



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These people show no interest in British literature, theatre, film-making, architecture or art. They really don't.

Here we go again Quinlad making your vastly exaggerated generalisations again, to try and some way prove his looney-left ideals.

You mentioned Morrocco to try and prove your views on racial integration as seen through those liberal rose tinted spectacles of yours. Of course they do all the things you highlighted, but it is not because the cultures are melding into one, (as you put it) , it all down to their hugely lucrative tourist trade.
Why does the term "racist" always have to carry sinister connotations?
White flight, black flight, Asian flight - it's all about people feeling more comfortable living amongst their own tribe. I don't blame anyone for that.
HOWEVER, this is first and foremost a white country, shaped by whites, maintained by whites. I think that white people on the move is far more tragic, more unjust. In the same vein, I was horrified at apartheid in South Africa, of black people being oppressed in their own country by white people who were/are newcomers.
No race is superior to another but the indigenous, long established culture of any country should always be respected and remain dominant unless an election points otherwise.
Sorry, AOG, so the people living in the village I visited in the Atlas mountains were putting on an elaborate act to attract tourism? Fascinating.

Go on then, what do you mean by culture? What is this white culture that you're all clinging to? Examples please.

By the way, I prefer to go on eye colour. Britain was built on the courage and spirit of indigenous blue-eyed folk. Anyone with brown eyes is an invader and is corrupting our precious 'culture'.
NikkiB - World is changing and so are the people. Once where there was a sea today it is known as Sahara Desert. And where people were living and running and doing all sorts of things, have gone under the sea since tsunami in 2004.

"HOWEVER, this is first and foremost a white country, shaped by whites, maintained by whites".

These were your words. I am afraid this country haven�t been maintained only by white people recently. After second world war when you did not have male work-force this country's wheel of fortune kept on turning because of the immigrants. And even to this date proportionately there are more local youngsters into binge drinking and all those sorts of problems than the children of the people who migrated here. Or you may want to look at this thread as a lot of debate was there that why local people are not willing to MAINTAIN this country anymore.
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question53 4544.html
Quinland - I agree with you. I am Asian and my wife is English. Even she does not have blue eyes, she has green though. Of course I have brown. All of my kids have brown eyes too. complexion is more like their mother. Where do they stand.
I am a fully paid up member then, I have blue eyes and blonde hair, (going a little grey at the sides).

The people living in the village I visited in the Atlas mountains. wear Man United shirts and jeans, listen to Western pop music and talk good English. They're not opposed to alcohol being served and they often eat chips with their meals.

I will have to take a trip in this remote village in the Atlas mountains, you talk about. Absolutely amazing, what make of 4X4s do they drive?

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