Absent Black fathers

[anotheoldgit]

I posted the following answer in my post of 08/07/08 regarding the problem of the number of children of ethnic race, waiting for adoption.

He/She was produced by a Black male, who's only purpose in life is to go from female to female, producing off-springs, but not willing to accept his responsibilities.

At last David Cameron, has now had the guts to overide political correctness, and point to the major contributing factor of the problems in the Black community.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-103583 4/The-black-father-crisis-Cameron-backed-black -mums-organisations.html

[WaldoMcFroog]

"David Cameron identifies incredibly widely known and across the board accepted issue about absentee fathers in the black community shocker."

If you had said 'aim' rather than 'purpose', it would have come across as more perceptive, by the way.

[anotheoldgit]

Waldro It makes no difference, same meaning.
AIm: ambition, objective, object, end, goal, PURPOSE, intention, intent, plan, target, hope, aspiration, desire, wish, design, direction, focus, dream, destination.

Take your pick.

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legend, The Mothers can be White or Black, that is not the issue.

The problem is absent Black Fathers, which incidently is the subject under discussion.

[whiffey]

Rather than trying to score spurious points off AOG leg end, you could do something original and constructive - e.g. try reading the article.

Then have a joust with Cameron and Obama.

[keyplus90]

The problem is that when one woman is a mother of five children from five different men or one man is going around and helping any woman for a conveyor belt sex and child with no responsibility then who would he or she stay with.

Make marriage compulsory so at least people will have some sort of responsibility to start with.

Or else..........



Keep watching...........................I am.

[jno]

it will utterly amaze and astound you to hear that this was white people's fault. Slaveowners kept black men away from their families but used them to breed other slaves. Now you don't like it any more so you want them all to get back together again. Only it's a lot harder to put the genie back into the bottle.

The issue was raised by Barack Obama, who is part-black. It sounds a lot less convicing from Eton boy Cameron. But who knows, maybe he will produce a coherent policy on it some day? Or is it easier just to point the finger and run away?

[ecoman]

Legend758, why can't you just be a racist like the rest of us?

[anotheoldgit]

Are absent black fathers more prevelant than white ones ?

I will have another go "THEY ARE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY".

Thanks whiffey, but I think we can keep knocking but there is no one at home.
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jno, now you are really struggling to make an argument,
trying to blame it all on slavery. But then perhaps you are trying to tell us the obvious that the fault lies in their genes?

[obNOXious]

So do you not think that in this day and age there is virtually no excuse wwhatsoever for becoming pregnant if you don't want to? Irrespective of the father's race, presumeably no-one forced these women to become pregnant in the first place, and sad though it is, it's not exactly unusual for men of ANY race to do a runner once they tire of the woman if the realtionship is not well established. This is not just a black problem, it's an issue across virtually all cultures and races within Britain and stems not from any racially related problem but from the problem that girls don't have enough self esteem to value their lives, their bodies, and their children's welfare before they have them. What we should do to assist this problem is raise everyone's self esteem so that they actually value themselves,by increased job prospects in the poorer communities, better educaiton and more incentives to make something positive of kids lives, then the problem would cure itself.Choose wisely ladies (of all races) there are a lot of total w4nkers out there, black and white

[123everton]

The problems in this matter are well documented Channel 4 did a documentry series on it called "The Trouble With Black Men" another issue is the reluctance of ethnic minorities to adopt or foster children of the same colour I had small experience of this many years ago when I was engaged to to a hinese girl (a different one to the one I'm with now, for those taking notes) the idea of adopting children from orphanages in China etal in later life was an anaethema to her.
The real issue is promiscuity (guilty) and the permisive society we need real reform in family policy from welfare to taxation including the reinforcing of marriage, all successful societies have marriage and the family at their core.

[anotheoldgit]

Not racist but fact, if you are Black you cannot be critised in anyway, or at least you once couldn't.

That is why there are the problems of Gangs, Guns, Drugs and Knives, predominantly in the Black communities.

For far too long politicians, the police and the media, have skirted around the problems, frightened in case they stepped on any egg shells.

But this is now all changing, it had to do. The subject is now being brought out into open for healthy debate. Some do not like it because their shield of immunity is now being lifted.

[Quinlad]

'Aim' and 'purpose' are not interchangeable.

And you meant to say 'whose purpose', not 'who's purpose'.

And have you noticed that you use capital letters to add gravity to certain phrases: like 'Knives', 'Black Fathers', 'Gangs'?

I wouldn't normally pick anyone up on it - but you seem to delight in telling other posters how thick they are.

[whiffey]

I often wonder what would (actually, probably will) happen if the view prevails that the situation in the black community is somehow the white man's fault. Clearly they are under-privileged, and Britain may have to accept that cohesive 2-parent families are not part of their culture and therefore are not going to happen.

They need jobs - so jobs must be created. The are poor, so they must be given money. These two are strikingly obvious, so high-paying jobs must be created in the deprived areas. Why aren't people going in there, with money taken from the public purse, and doing just that? Then the problem will go away.

[ruby27]

anotheoldgit

jno isn't struggling. What he/she is doing is pointing out that the cultural heritage of African/Caribbean and African/American has been heavily shaped by the impact of slavery. The fathers were not part of the family unit and the mothers reared children on their own or with their own mothers.

If you were to read anything outside of the daily mail you would be aware of something called social anthropology which provides accounts of why different societies have different cultures. You would agree Britain has a culture - this heritage emerged and has been shaped various forces such as being in island, being northern European etc. So the same for other cultures, they develop over time and are influenced by various factors.

[anotheoldgit]

What are you trying to say ruby27, that they know no difference, and that they are still just like some animals, who do not settle down with one partner?

What a load of rubbish, you are just making excuses for their behavour.

If I had suggested that they wasn't as far up the chain of evolution, as the Europeans, you would have been quick to call me a racist.