Polish workers

[16AFA]

It's not just production staff now, there's more + more Polish team leaders and Managers in the workplace now, where I work at least 25% of the engineers are from Eastern Europe.

That's not a critisism, only an observation, and it's made me wonder.. with so many UK born citizens on 'income support' or other benefits shouldn't we get them into gamefull employment then start looking overseas for labour?

[redcrx]

In this area a lot of the manual labour in the food industry is foreign workers, mainly because the pay is pretty poor (or piece work) and benefits pay higher.

The polish and portuguese do work very hard for their money and dont slack so I suppose its perfectly natural for them to start to take the management positions as a progression.

The only way to get UK born citizens to do such jobs as these on production lines is to cut benefits or to only offer then as a stop gap, to encourage people back to work that can work and are just choosing not to.

[legend_mark5]

They don't want to work , its a fact .BBBC survey found workers in England in Peterborough wouldn't come off income support for a measley 7 quid an hour .Their words .There would be no market for foreigners if idle Brits worked rather than live on giros.A great deal of single mothers could provide very good employees , even on a part-time basis .But they wouldn't work unless getting even more money .Hence the cant afford to work attitude now prevalent.



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[4getmenot]

ha ha anybody else read it as polish workers as in people that polish things?? Nope just me oh well

[legend_mark5]

exactly red .on the programme i watched a young fit guy outsie the job center in peterborough laughed when asked by a reporter if hed come off income support to pick cabbages for 7 quid an hour.his answer ?let the foreigners do it mate , im not coming offf benefits for that kind of money .

[16AFA]

Red, as a matter of fact I am in the food industry, as a H+S Manager, I've been working on the production lines this week and the English language is only spoken as a 1st language by about 10% of the staff, the other 90% are either Gujerati or Polish.

[redcrx]

its too easy to stay at home and do nothing and get same amount in benefits.

I know a few couples that have quit their jobs and gone onto benefits for similar amounts of money.

The problem is though that the polish send most of their income back to Poland to relatives so its not going back into the UK economy.

[legend_mark5]

The guy im friends with here , amar from leeeds .Hes english and has a spanish dad .Hes been here in tenerife about 7 years maybe , hes fluent in spanish from his fatherr.But when he stayed in leeds he said many of the factory workers even then were polish , and some of the best grafters hed met.And still to this day he thinks that.Ive not had dealings with poles but my mate worked in tescos distribution center in scotland and said the same , hard workers never offf , never feigning illness , yes the old british sicknote tradition isnt common in poland .

[redcrx]

my exes grandad was Polish, lovely hard working man all his life.
Im not sure how life in Poland is now but Ive seen an old woman reduced to tears when she visited the UK and saw how easy life was for people here. No queing for bread each day, could buy anything in the shops, no rationing.
The seem to be a very hardworking and proud people. Many work for the families at home, many are even doctors etc earning here to fund their way through university etc back in Poland.

[4getmenot]

ah could that not be the make zac? lol

[4getmenot]

thanks, just humour me :-)

[16AFA]

One Team Leader told me yesterday that she's going to work here in England for 5 years then buy a house in Poland outright, no mortgage.

She's renting a house in Leicester with 15 other people, they work shifts and use what we called the 'hot bed' method in the Army. IE when one person gets up to go to work, someone else gets in who's just come off shift.
I'm sure having that many people under one roof is illegal for H+S matters.

[legend_mark5]

Yeah zac folk tend to forget the part other countries , even America coming lately , played in our brilliant rout of the Hun by our grandparents , and assorted nationalities from around the world who are too unimportant to mention whilst waving the union jack and saluting our German queen .
oops .

[zzxxee]

not racist at all but a few polish workers come to the uk for a so called better life then moan about how expensive everthing is here in the uk . ifnthe price of living is so expensive and the uk is such a bad place why leave poland? at least they have a choice i dont ilive here and cant afford to uproot my family

[legend_mark5]

The weakness of the british currency against the euro.an alltime low , making britains currency the weakest in europe probably will lead to workers going back to poland etc.then who will fill the vacancies ?

exactly eh ?