Honest Reporting, Israel-Hamas/Palestine

[Lonnie]

Just thought i'd put this link up, it can be said to be on sided, but it does give a clearer picture of the whole.

http://www.honestreporting.com/a/gaza2008prime r.html

[parra]

Israel does not target Palestinian civilians

Why will the Israeli army not let the camera's in , on the tv last night a camera team that has got in released picture
footage of Israeli bombs landing on civilian targets. Ask yourself how many Israeli people have died and how many Palestinian people have died . Ask yourself why they wil not let in the world's tv camera crews.

[parra]

Monday, Dec. 17, 2007 at 11:05 AM

In Paris again tax payers like you are forced to foot the bills of the warmongers. In 2007 the people in the European Union and its 27 member states where forced to pay Israel about $1.45 billion - which never reached the Palestinians. The genocidal human disaster only got worse.

[jake-the-peg]

And you believe them why?

Because they have the word "Honest" in their name?

Because they portray the one side that you back?

Try to get in the habit of checking your sources - this is a good start:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hon est_Reporting

* Rabbi Ephraim Shore President
* Joe Hyams, CEO
* Simon Plosker
* Yarden Frankl, Senior editor
* Pesach Benson Blog editor
* Gary Kenzer USA director

HonestReporting
1 Shvut Road
Old City, Jerusalem
ISRAEL

Are you still expecting a "clear picture" from them?

[Cugetit]

Lonnie, if you say it enough you might believe it but you are not convincing any fair minded person. It may have been easy to fool people 50 years or more ago but with modern communications, you are wasting your time. It is fairly obvious to anybody that the Jewish lobby controls the USA and the UK and several other countries and consequently every time the United Nations attempt to pass a resolution which could have ended this disgusting situation in Gaza, the USA uses its veto. My apologies in advance but I say roll on the time when Ahmadinejad of Iran achieves his ambition.

[DaisyMae]

The first casualty in any war is the truth.

[Lonnie]

First, I said it was a bit one sided.

Second, I never said I believed it, although some of it I do.

Third, I'm not that naive,

Fourth, Media on all sides tell the truth that they want us to believe.

Fifth, I' do back Israels actions,

I am not going to explain myself more than that,

[jake-the-peg]

So maybe in future you'll credit us with the sense to see through such obvious propaganda.

Frankly posting such stuff here in the hope you'll influence someone is pretty insulting

[Lonnie]

jake, to influence anyone was not my intention, and you insult me by suggesting it, I just thought some of you anti-Israelis should see some propaganda by the other side.

All I did was put up that link, what you and all the others have made of it, is up to you.

[krazydiamond]

Lonnie i used to feel sorry for the jewish people after seeing documentaries about the second world war.
Now after seeing what little can be shown by the news seeing that Israel is blocking news groups from filming. I feel sorry for the people of Palestine. It reminds me of the ghetto in Poland.in the second world war.
Anyone who speaks out is classed as anti Israeli.How can anyone say anything if you throw that at them.

(some of you anti-Israelis should see some propaganda by the other side. ) your words

Who bombed the king david hotel around 1948 ?

[Raleigh]

Equating the Polish ghetto with what is happening in Gaza proves you have little understanding of the situation.
Films and books tell how the Nazis' only intention was to slaughter ALL the people there.
Israel is aiming at Hamas and justs want the continual rocket attacks to cease so some kind of peace can begin in the region.
Check it out, you will not find the Warsaw ghetto residents were firing missiles at the Nazis for a few years before most were killed.
Palestinians voted Hamas in. Do you think they were expecting them to be sane, reasonable people who would negotiate for peace?

[Lonnie]

Okay, lets start from the beginning of this conflict, since 2005, Hamas has launch something like 6000 rockets and other missiles at Israel, without Israel hitting back, at the end of the last truce, it was Hamas who lauched Missile attacks at Israel, not Israel at Hamas.

Right now, most almost Worldwide, people say Israel is using disproportionate force, that may well be, but Hamas has its rocket launchers sited under schools, Mosques, civilian housing, so, can somone say what would be proportianate force?, and in order to minimise civilian casualties, how you would go about nullifying these things?.