What happened the talk of ousting Brown?

[spacechimp]

I am incensed. Has everybody in the Labour government suddenly decided to become as moronically loyal as Hazel Blears? Why are they allowing him to continue his spree of absolute ineptitude? Are they honestly going to let him be there pıssing the country up the wall for another year and a half?

[Gromit]

Who would you replace him with who is better?

No one knows if all the money spent will avert a catastrophe or not. The alternative on offer is to do nothing. To stare in the headlights of the credit crunch and recession like startled rabbits and wait for our inevitable demise.

I, would sooner go down fighting than sit there twiddling our thumbs, as Cameron is offering.

[Gromit]

Who would you replace him with who is better?

No one knows if all the money spent will avert a catastrophe or not. The alternative on offer is to do nothing. To stare in the headlights of the credit crunch and recession like startled rabbits and wait for our inevitable demise.

I, would sooner go down fighting than sit there twiddling our thumbs, as Cameron is offering.

[jake-the-peg]

I think Spacechimp would rather see George Osbourne steer us through these difficult financial waters.

You keep him talking I'll phone the nurse!

[Kathyan]

They're backing him because if they don't, they will be out of a job!

[spacechimp]

Anyone would be better. The Liberal Democrats would probably be more competent. He inherited the most benign economy he could possibly have hoped for and he has brought it to its knees.

Whatever you think about Lawson and Thatcher, at least they were in control of what they were doing, not just dashing pathetically from one unknown to the next, spewing billions of pounds they didn't have wherever next took their fancy.

[Quinlad]

And of course, the global economy is is fine fettle.

[jake-the-peg]

Brown is taking action

- It was Thatcher who took the handcuffs of of the bankers - nice move!

Cameron and Osbourne would sit back and wring their hands and hope it all went away

- they don't have a plan

- they don't have a clue

all they do is oppose

[rov1200]

All this Brown talk of protecting the workers. With 3 to 4 million unemployed the workers are hardly protected. In fact the only one getting help are the corporate companies and the banks to keep them afloat.

I wouldn't have started from here! Except for the miseley 2.5% cut in VAT what have they achieved for the average worker. France and Germany have ploughed �billions into consumer led initiatives and will probably escape the recession. But not us!

And people still don't believe in being run by Europe. Face up to it! Our politicians of both parties are useless and we should hand the reins over to Brussels.

[DrFilth]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMJHYKrHNA&feat ure=PlayList&p=5CD673C0B0D48412&playnext=1&ind ex=46



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[R1Geezer]

The party know the party's over. They know they are going to get a kicking so they are letting Brown take it and they'll dump him shortly after the next election. Then someone like Milliband will take over. I doubt they'll even find a stalking horse at this stage. Also Brown has done well with the credit crunch so that'll probably be enough to keep him there till the next election.

[anotheoldgit]

'British slump will be the worst in the developed world'.

Now why doesn't that suprise me, can anyone explain why it will be the worst than other countries?

I place the blame entirely in the hands of the useless politicians we have.

They are forever blaiming each other. Labour after 10 years in power are still blaiming the Tories for the mess they left. I hate to think how long we will have to suffer excuses from the Tories if they get in next time, especially after this present mess we are in.

Why in circumstances like we are now in, don't they forget party politics, group together the best people regardless of their politics, and then work together for the overall good of the nation and it's people?


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business /economics/article5608284.ece

[spacechimp]

Brown spent his entire chancellorship smugly taking all the credit for the economy the Conservatives created. Fair enough, he did his best to maintain the status quo, which is understandable given that he doesn't have the first clue about how to run an economy, but for you to blame Thatcher for the failures of this government 12 years into its term is risible. I didn't see Brown rushing to regulate the City. In fact, he did quite the opposite and blocked the EU's every attempt to promote tougher regulation of the financial sector.

And if you could provide some evidence of the Tories saying that we should do nothing, that would be nice. (NB: quoting Gordon Brown claiming this is what the Tories do is not the same thing as finding a quote of the Tories saying it).

He runs along merrily enjoying the effective capitalist model the Tories engineered, and at the first sign of trouble, capitalism is dead in the water and it's the world's fault.

Remember his golden rules? When he flogged off the gold at market bottom? When he said we were the best placed economy in the West? That's right, you keep on kissing his arse until China calls in her debts.

[spacechimp]

Oh, I forgot: so utterly clueless was he of global economics and far up his own arse was his head, that he claimed to have ended boom and bust.

[Gromit]

can anyone explain why it will be the worst than other countries?

It will be worse for us for two reasons...

1. We have a world financial collapse, and London is one of the major financial centres. Many jobs will be lost in this sector, and a lot of money from banking profits will disappear from our economy.

2. Our credit boom and spending power was fueled by over inflated house prices. Most of the world (other than the USA) do not follow our housing model, and renting is more prevalent. The housing market has collapsed so there is not as much money washing around our economy, hitting the retail sector (and jobs) more here than abroad.

[DrFilth]

will the people who lose their jobs hate brown as much as the people who lost their jobs when maggie was in power


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[ludwig]

What happened was the economy went down the pan, which gave Brown the opportunity to look good, in a sort of dour, stoic kind of way. As he said at the time (to David Milliband), 'This is no time for a novice'.
His ratings went up (when times are hard the public prefer a dour stoic kind of leader) and all the labour MPs stopped sla6ging him off because they weren't so worried about losing their jobs any more.
When his ratings go down, which it looks like they're starting to, they'll all start sla6ging him off again.

[BigDave44]

It's a bit like recruiting the captain of the Titanic to sail your new ship, as he has experience of maiden voyages.

Brown's economic policies have been so obviously flawed to anyone with more than a handful of brain cells - what annoys me is that no-one seems to know how to point this out.

All you have to do is to repeat the same thing, again and again and people will eventually think you know what you are talking about. It worked for that arch war-criminal Blair, and it will work again.