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Last year, Mumbai, this week Lahore.
Who's next, since we have our own home grown factions already here, should we now be concerned, if not why not?
Who's next, since we have our own home grown factions already here, should we now be concerned, if not why not?
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Any society has to be concerned about the risk and take it seriously.
The important thing is to put the risk in context.
In a country where 10 people a day die in road traffic accidents you'll excuse me if I don't get too excited about the risk of dying in a terrorist attack.
Particularly important not to listen to the agents of panic who run around trying to stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
Don't you think?
The important thing is to put the risk in context.
In a country where 10 people a day die in road traffic accidents you'll excuse me if I don't get too excited about the risk of dying in a terrorist attack.
Particularly important not to listen to the agents of panic who run around trying to stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
Don't you think?
jake-the-peg
Mon 02/03/09
14:28 Why do I get the feeling that Filth would be baying for his blood had it been an asylum seeker?
Particularly important not to listen to the agents of panic who run around trying to stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
Don't you think?
have you found a link jaky ?
stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
who is the loser jaky ,
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Mon 02/03/09
14:28 Why do I get the feeling that Filth would be baying for his blood had it been an asylum seeker?
Particularly important not to listen to the agents of panic who run around trying to stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
Don't you think?
have you found a link jaky ?
stir up fear, prejudice and racial disquiet for their own grubby political ends
who is the loser jaky ,
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I'm more concerned about crime than terrorism.
We do need to be vigilant but some of us need to understand that the vast majority of Muslims have far too much to live for to be arsed blowing themselves or anyone else up.
We had more Irish (at a guess) living in the U.K during the troubles, how many of them were terrorists, how many of them were sympathetic for that matter?
During the teddy bear fiasco, about a dozen Muslims very bravely stood up and protested about the nonsense of the situation. I posted a thread saying that they should be praised for their courage and that we should all get behind them.
Several agreed, whilst others spoke of the ones who did'nt show up, they're just howling at the moon.
We do need to be vigilant but some of us need to understand that the vast majority of Muslims have far too much to live for to be arsed blowing themselves or anyone else up.
We had more Irish (at a guess) living in the U.K during the troubles, how many of them were terrorists, how many of them were sympathetic for that matter?
During the teddy bear fiasco, about a dozen Muslims very bravely stood up and protested about the nonsense of the situation. I posted a thread saying that they should be praised for their courage and that we should all get behind them.
Several agreed, whilst others spoke of the ones who did'nt show up, they're just howling at the moon.
Not in Britain though.
The question is about British Muslims, moderate Muslims (the silent majority if you will) should be encouraged and supported by all creeds and by those who have none to speak up and strike out against those who wish to divide society.
Islamic fundamentalism is facism's new clothes (substitute kuffar for Jew and you've gat Nazism), Islamic fundamentalists are akin to our own B.N.P, they have the same beef different gravy.
The question is about British Muslims, moderate Muslims (the silent majority if you will) should be encouraged and supported by all creeds and by those who have none to speak up and strike out against those who wish to divide society.
Islamic fundamentalism is facism's new clothes (substitute kuffar for Jew and you've gat Nazism), Islamic fundamentalists are akin to our own B.N.P, they have the same beef different gravy.
123everton "(the silent majority if you will)" - That's the whole point, why aren't they putting their own huse in order? Why aren't they doing something about their own nutters? Why aren't they booting loony imams out of Mosques, out of the whole religion even? Because most muslims may be inactive but they privately want the extremists to succeed, to establish world Islam under Sharia. They give tacit approval by innaction.
We are up to our eyeballs in apologists for them who will not realise until it is too late. The odd few warning about Hitler in the early 30's where seen as extremists by the Liberal elite, that is until their own cosy little lives needed protection, "send for the loones, we need them now, How did that Adolf bloke turn so nasty? we didn't offend him did we?". Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it!
We are up to our eyeballs in apologists for them who will not realise until it is too late. The odd few warning about Hitler in the early 30's where seen as extremists by the Liberal elite, that is until their own cosy little lives needed protection, "send for the loones, we need them now, How did that Adolf bloke turn so nasty? we didn't offend him did we?". Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it!
Geezer do you support and praise the actions of the Muslim demonstators whoobjected to the ravings over the teddy bear?
Although I may be wrong about demos, or was that over that Dutch bloke?
Hitler rose up off the back of the injustices of Versailles, which damaged the economic fabric of the world which helped lead to the Great Depression, tapping in to latent anti-semitism he sought to blame the Jews aided and abetted (historically) by Ludendorff (to conceal the failures of his own campaigns), as a democracy Britain had no appettite for war (as the scenes upon Chamberlain's return demonstrate), politically, militarily and economically we were in no position to oppose to Germany and Chamberlain knew that France would collapse almost as soon as hostilities began.
He also knew militarily that we could do nothing to help Poland.
History is bunk?
Although I may be wrong about demos, or was that over that Dutch bloke?
Hitler rose up off the back of the injustices of Versailles, which damaged the economic fabric of the world which helped lead to the Great Depression, tapping in to latent anti-semitism he sought to blame the Jews aided and abetted (historically) by Ludendorff (to conceal the failures of his own campaigns), as a democracy Britain had no appettite for war (as the scenes upon Chamberlain's return demonstrate), politically, militarily and economically we were in no position to oppose to Germany and Chamberlain knew that France would collapse almost as soon as hostilities began.
He also knew militarily that we could do nothing to help Poland.
History is bunk?
123everton
Islamic fundamentalists are akin to our own B.N.P, they have the same beef different gravy.
Wrong
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sp1814
Absolutely 100% spot on.
<i.BNP/Muslim fundamentalists - same suit, different wearer
And wrong yet again
Can never remember many BNP members blowing buildings, buses or people up.
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Islamic fundamentalists are akin to our own B.N.P, they have the same beef different gravy.
Wrong
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sp1814
Absolutely 100% spot on.
<i.BNP/Muslim fundamentalists - same suit, different wearer
And wrong yet again
Can never remember many BNP members blowing buildings, buses or people up.
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Read Chamberlain's letters to his sister before the war or look it up in Alan Clarke's biography on the man, France collapsed politically during the French campaign and it also capitulated to Germany over the Sudeten Land which (if memory serves) it had a treaty obligation to defend.
B.N.P say they defend the rights of the British.
Fundamentalists say they defend the rights of Muslims.
The only significant difference is that the B.N.P claims to stand for a country whereas the fundamentalists claim to stand for a belief.
That belief (in terms of Al Qaeda) is a very narrow belief coincidentally that owes much of it's ideology to Pan-Arabism (Hitler was a Pan-Germanist) mixed with political deobandism (from Pakistan)
True the B.N.P does not have a military wing, although they are alleged to be involved in low level criminality (well low if you're not a victim of it) but the B.N.P does'nt need a paramilitary wing as it is free to stand in any elections it chooses too and rightly so.
The countries in which fundamentalism thrives are often corrupt and dictatorial with a high level of poverty and inequality, you deal with these evils and fundamentalism withers and dies on the vine.
B.N.P say they defend the rights of the British.
Fundamentalists say they defend the rights of Muslims.
The only significant difference is that the B.N.P claims to stand for a country whereas the fundamentalists claim to stand for a belief.
That belief (in terms of Al Qaeda) is a very narrow belief coincidentally that owes much of it's ideology to Pan-Arabism (Hitler was a Pan-Germanist) mixed with political deobandism (from Pakistan)
True the B.N.P does not have a military wing, although they are alleged to be involved in low level criminality (well low if you're not a victim of it) but the B.N.P does'nt need a paramilitary wing as it is free to stand in any elections it chooses too and rightly so.
The countries in which fundamentalism thrives are often corrupt and dictatorial with a high level of poverty and inequality, you deal with these evils and fundamentalism withers and dies on the vine.
The countries in which fundamentalism thrives are often corrupt and dictatorial with a high level of poverty and inequality, you deal with these evils and fundamentalism withers and dies on the vine.
Fundamentalism is thriving in this country, yes this country may be slightly corrupt and slightly dictatorial at times, it can even be accused of encouraging a little inequality, but I wouldn't say it has a high level poverty.
So why do we continue to breed fundamentalists in this country? Even professional men, who can't be living in poverty turn to terrorism.
Fundamentalism is thriving in this country, yes this country may be slightly corrupt and slightly dictatorial at times, it can even be accused of encouraging a little inequality, but I wouldn't say it has a high level poverty.
So why do we continue to breed fundamentalists in this country? Even professional men, who can't be living in poverty turn to terrorism.
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