now i have....

[stokemaveric]

served in northern ireland in the height of the troubles in the 80s but i have just seen on the news all the football violence in belfast and it was pretty ugly....there really is no hope for that place im afraid.......

[gonzo00]

there might be hope for this" place" if interfering brits and yanks would keep thier f**kin noses outta our business...let us sort our own problems out.....and that is rich by the way,an englishman talking about our football holigans! it's not like you guys ever misbehaved at a footie match, is it????? prick.

[pastafreak]

i am a yank...and i have to admit that i have always thought that the irish problem should be sorted by the irish.

[beejay1124]

stokie-the footie violence was instigated by the polish(think they would be happy enough at taking the jobs of locals)

and i suppose that football violence is alien to englanders-especially after they get their second half-pint shandy

it is a Northern Irish problem ,pasta

[abstibus]

I am a British citizen but I always travel with my Irish passport, as do many others, both Catholic and Protestant. It says something when we are ashamed to be British abroad.

[modeller]

When extremists start fighting someone eventually comes out on top which brings the violence to an uneasy end but when outsiders interfere the violence can go on for decades or longer. Think of Northern Ireland and Israel . I know when left alone many conflicts end with the wrong side winning depending on your point of view but the alternative usually results at best in stalemate and at worse not stop violence .
The UN have a dismal record when interfering , think of the Congo and Sudan. Maybe the time has come to let people sort out their own problems. It may sound cruel but in the long run it may be for the best.

[beejay1124]

sorry stokie and all about that big gap^-dunno what happened