Time for them to go

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-118425 1/Tamil-demonstrators-bring-central-London-sta ndstill-protest-Sri-Lankan-military-offensive. html

Is it not time for this demonstration to be cleared from our capitals streets?

There are an estimated 300,000 Tamils in this country, instead of them causing disruption in our Capital, in their attempt to get the British Government involved in their countries affairs, why don't they all return to their own country and help to solve their own countries problems themselves?

[jake-the-peg]

You think we should just ignore things going on in other countries?

Like for example the way the papacy ignored the third Reich?

OK that's an extreme example and I'm not comparing the Sri Lanka Government to Hitlers regieme but the point remains that when governments commit extreme acts the best way to bring pressure on them is often through other governments

[Bobbisox]

Too bl00dy right, I'm sick and tired about these peple taking advantage of this country, sorry but I would like my country back.....

[Oneeyedvic]

So all the 300,000 Tamils should leave even though there are only a few hundred (maybe a couple of thousand max?) protesting.


And did you want all demonstrations to be banned or just ones where their are foreign people involved?

Who should be 'sent back'?

Many Tamils arrived here way before any trouble started there. Should they be deported to?

[rov1200]

Tamils have been fighting for years to establish a separate homeland in north-eastern Sri Lanka.

The Scots have been pushing for something similar but they don�t need to riot on the streets to achieve their aim. As AOG says go home and lie on it, its none of our business.

[Oneeyedvic]

So should all the Irish be thrown out - after all they (or specifically the IRA) have committed more atrocities and killed more people in this county than any one else?

[jake-the-peg]

3 police officers and 5 demonstrators hurt - 10 arrests.

This is not what I call a riot!


In my day we had proper riots that went on for days with burnt out shops and lootings!

These foreigners just don't know how to do it - we need to get some French consultants in here

[anotheoldgit]

If these people chose to make Britain their home, and wish to be classed as British, then they should be more concerned with what is happening in the country they chose to live in, than a country thousands of miles away.

I don't know how many different nationalities have chose to make Britain their home, but it must quite a few. Is it now the British Government's responsibility not only to care for them but to get involved in their ex-countries affairs also?

[Oneeyedvic]

So being British am I not allowed to have an opinion or make any form of protest about Guantanamo Bay?

If there was a march to ask our government to put pressure on the Americans to close GB, would I be not allowed to go on it?

Can I protest against the laws in this country? Or is that too much to ask as well? Can I decry our national leader or is that unpatriotic? What about the monarchy?

[anotheoldgit]

Stop being so objectionable Oneeyedvic, you know damn well where I am coming from with this.

Your analogies just do not stand up.

If there was a march to ask our government to put pressure on the Americans to close GB, would I be not allowed to go on it?

Of course you would if you so wished. Like it or not we are directly involved with GB, seeing that we were partnered with America in their illegal war.

Can I protest against the laws in this country? Or is that too much to ask as well? Can I decry our national leader or is that unpatriotic? What about the monarchy?

Once again you have been absolutely silly to ask these questions too, it speaks for it's self really, but since you posted it perhaps you cannot see the difference.

All these you have the perfect right to protest about while in this country. But not on the streets of say, Australia, if you had decided to take up permanent residency Australia.

[Oneeyedvic]

Stop being so objectionable Oneeyedvic, you know damn well where I am coming from with this

Sorry I really don't.

It appears that if someone comes over to this country, you seem to think that they are not allowed to think of anything apart from this country and stop having any feelings towards their country of their birth.

Presumably then think that any Jewish people in this country are not allowed to have any views on Israel?


All these you have the perfect right to protest about while in this country. But not on the streets of say, Australia, if you had decided to take up permanent residency Australia.

So are only Australians allowed to have any views on the Aborigines? If I was on holiday there or even went to work there for a few years, should I not be allowed to go on a protest march calling for their equal rights?

Just out of curiosity - how long do you have to be here for before you have to forego all your rights to your previous country. Is it if you live here for 2 years? 5 years? 10 years or do you have to plan to live here for life?

[Oneeyedvic]

Another thought - what happens to those people who have dual citizenship - I have friends who emigrated to Aus a few years ago - and now have dual citizenship. Are they allowed to protest in either country or in neither?

[Quinlad]

Does it stop at countries?

Only I live in London now but recently signed a petition to save Stockport County FC. Does this mean I have to go back up North? Have I betrayed the good people of London?

Please advise.

[anotheoldgit]

Oneeyedvic

By all your rather silly analogies it is obviously you just want to turn a genuine debate on an on going problem on the streets of our capital, into a constant 'if when', 'if what' completion, to which I am no longer willing to take part in.

Not only that but you start off people like little Quinlad, jumping up and down with glee, and joining in with their own silly juvenile contributions.

A perfect example of you turning a serious debate into something rather silly.

[Oneeyedvic]

Sorry, your idea of a 'serious debate' is asking why 300,000 Tamils* should return to a country (based on the actions of a minority of them, who protested in London) which many of them left decades ago.

You really think this is a serious debate topic?

I suspect the real reason that you don't want to carry on this debate is because you have made a typical knee jerk reaction and can't actually defend it. You don't like the 'what if' scenarios that I mention as you can't actually answer them with any clarity.




* and can I ask where you got this number from - as I suspect it is half that number.

[Quinlad]

I'm sorry if you think it's juvenile. I'm just trying to ascertain why it's wrong to protest about issues that don't affect your country of residence.

And why that rule (if there is one) applies to national borders but not regional ones. Seems a bit arbitrary to me.

The fact you're getting irritated with people questioning your rationale speaks volumes, by the way.