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Some months ago a woman was raped and then had acid thrown over her. The perps got the usual few years and,we were told,the sentences were to be reviewed. I've heard nothing yet. Have you ?
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They were sentenced in January and after an outcry, the Attorney General was (and still is) reviewing the sentences.
Meanwhile, you'll be pleased to read this...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article -23484523-details/Man+killed+in+Oxford+St+was+ on+bail+for+horrific+acid+rape/article.do
Meanwhile, you'll be pleased to read this...
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article -23484523-details/Man+killed+in+Oxford+St+was+ on+bail+for+horrific+acid+rape/article.do
Thanks for that link Gromit, but I did notice that you did not make any comment regarding this thug, why was that?
Perhaps it was because at the time of the savage rape of that poor girl, I happened to call the perpetrators of this crime Savages and was criticised heavily for it, even called a racist.
I also got many examples thrown into my face of all the crimes White people had been convicted of in the past. How this could somehow help to reduce the seriousness of this rape one cannot imagine.
Regarding this latest stabbing victim, it makes a change to read he was just another savage that got his just deserts, instead of reading, 'he was such a kind caring lad, that would do anything for anybody, a gifted sportsman and a credit to the community'.
No he should not be put into this category, as have many more innocent victims, no this time he was 'a complete savage', and no one should mourn his passing.
Perhaps it was because at the time of the savage rape of that poor girl, I happened to call the perpetrators of this crime Savages and was criticised heavily for it, even called a racist.
I also got many examples thrown into my face of all the crimes White people had been convicted of in the past. How this could somehow help to reduce the seriousness of this rape one cannot imagine.
Regarding this latest stabbing victim, it makes a change to read he was just another savage that got his just deserts, instead of reading, 'he was such a kind caring lad, that would do anything for anybody, a gifted sportsman and a credit to the community'.
No he should not be put into this category, as have many more innocent victims, no this time he was 'a complete savage', and no one should mourn his passing.
Pathetic, as usual I am being criticised once again for daring to accuse anyone who happens to be Black.
I did not make any observations on the people who committed this crime, because that was not the question.
Gromit You will go to any lengths to wriggle out of an argument, this time you have excelled yourself.
Read brionon's question again, the whole question was about the people, (or as brionon put it 'The Perps'.) who committed this crime.
And wasn't it you who made observations on one of the persons who was on bail for the horrific rape and a gang stabbing, by posting your link?
In the unlikelihood it happens to be me who is wrong, perhaps you would care to point out what the question was indeed about?
I did not make any observations on the people who committed this crime, because that was not the question.
Gromit You will go to any lengths to wriggle out of an argument, this time you have excelled yourself.
Read brionon's question again, the whole question was about the people, (or as brionon put it 'The Perps'.) who committed this crime.
And wasn't it you who made observations on one of the persons who was on bail for the horrific rape and a gang stabbing, by posting your link?
In the unlikelihood it happens to be me who is wrong, perhaps you would care to point out what the question was indeed about?
AOG,
Whether it was down to poor literacy, failure to follow the thread or (and this isn't unlikely) your latent true feelings, what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
That's what people took issue with.
Hope this clears the matter up. Although as this has been explained to you several times, I doubt it will.
Whether it was down to poor literacy, failure to follow the thread or (and this isn't unlikely) your latent true feelings, what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
That's what people took issue with.
Hope this clears the matter up. Although as this has been explained to you several times, I doubt it will.
When are you hand wringing leffties going to wake up and admit that it is not the colour of their skin, but their whole culture that makes them the savages they are.
I must admit that along with the black music and drug scene, some of our own youth are now beginning copy some of the black culture, but to commit crimes like this even they would draw the line at.
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question66 9521-2.html
Just to be clear, my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
That to me is just plain wrong.
I would agree that the people that brionon referred to are indeed savages, however there is a difference between individuals actions and a culture.
I must admit that along with the black music and drug scene, some of our own youth are now beginning copy some of the black culture, but to commit crimes like this even they would draw the line at.
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question66 9521-2.html
Just to be clear, my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
That to me is just plain wrong.
I would agree that the people that brionon referred to are indeed savages, however there is a difference between individuals actions and a culture.
Quinlad
Yes you were the prime instigator in the attack on me, by telling bare faced lies you turned my legitimate condemnation of this and one other similar crime, into a truly false statement, that all Black youths are savages.
Don't you dare try and put it down to poor literacy or a failure to follow the thread on my part, or even my 'latent true feelings' when in fact it is your lies and over assumptions that are to blame
what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
I notice in this paragraph you use the word suggested thus implying that it is you that is making the suggestion, if not why did you shy away from using the word stated
.
Yes you were the prime instigator in the attack on me, by telling bare faced lies you turned my legitimate condemnation of this and one other similar crime, into a truly false statement, that all Black youths are savages.
Don't you dare try and put it down to poor literacy or a failure to follow the thread on my part, or even my 'latent true feelings' when in fact it is your lies and over assumptions that are to blame
what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
I notice in this paragraph you use the word suggested thus implying that it is you that is making the suggestion, if not why did you shy away from using the word stated
.
AOG: Don't you dare try and put it down to poor literacy or a failure to follow the thread on my part, or even my 'latent true feelings' when in fact it is your lies and over assumptions that are to blame
what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
I notice in this paragraph you use the word suggested thus implying that it is you that is making the suggestion, if not why did you shy away from using the word stated
I have taken the time to extract exactly what you said and also put in the link so that there is no accusation of you being taken out of context.
Everyone can interpret it their own way.
what you suggested at the time was that black youths are savages. Rather than just these particular black youths.
I notice in this paragraph you use the word suggested thus implying that it is you that is making the suggestion, if not why did you shy away from using the word stated
I have taken the time to extract exactly what you said and also put in the link so that there is no accusation of you being taken out of context.
Everyone can interpret it their own way.
AOG
Stop being stupid.
The question is
the sentences were to be reviewed. I've heard nothing yet. Have you ?
I answered the question without ranting about savages.
Gromit You will go to any lengths to wriggle out of an argument, this time you have excelled yourself.
There was no argument to wriggle out of.
get a grip old man.
Stop being stupid.
The question is
the sentences were to be reviewed. I've heard nothing yet. Have you ?
I answered the question without ranting about savages.
Gromit You will go to any lengths to wriggle out of an argument, this time you have excelled yourself.
There was no argument to wriggle out of.
get a grip old man.
AOG,
If I, and several others, interpreted your post to be an attack on black youths in general, then that, my good friend, is down to either the intended meaning or poor literacy.
With a better use of language, you could have avoided any ambiguity. Unless, of course, it was your true meaning all along and you're now desperately trying to backtrack.
If I, and several others, interpreted your post to be an attack on black youths in general, then that, my good friend, is down to either the intended meaning or poor literacy.
With a better use of language, you could have avoided any ambiguity. Unless, of course, it was your true meaning all along and you're now desperately trying to backtrack.
Gromit
Stop being stupid.
get a grip old man.
Once again Gromit you have reverted back to your old ways of name calling and belittlement to somehow get at me, because I have once again proven you wrong.
You make it so obvious, if you want to gain respect for putting up a serious argument, please don't revert to school ground name calling.
Perhaps you should now practice putting up an adult argument to the two latests post in my posting titled 'Enough is enough'?
Stop being stupid.
get a grip old man.
Once again Gromit you have reverted back to your old ways of name calling and belittlement to somehow get at me, because I have once again proven you wrong.
You make it so obvious, if you want to gain respect for putting up a serious argument, please don't revert to school ground name calling.
Perhaps you should now practice putting up an adult argument to the two latests post in my posting titled 'Enough is enough'?
Oneeyedvic
Thank you for searching out that past post. I am sorry that your interpretation on what I said seems to fit in with others who would wish to turn my argument into something quite different from what I actually intended.
I would agree that the people that brionon referred to are indeed savages
And I hope that you admit also, the fact that all those who took part in these two heinous rapes are what I said 'savages' also.
Now having put the word 'savages' back into it's correct context ie 'the perpetrators of these crimes'. we come to the word culture,
When I referred to Black culture it was at a time when there were numerous black on black stabbings and shootings all carried out in the name of young black gang culture.
Therefore when these two horrific rapes where committed by numerous members of black gangs, it was relevant to refer to culture, but not to group the whole of Black culture to savages.
my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
I cannot state strongly enough that your interpretation of my comments is completely without substance.
I only hope this will somehow explain what some have wrongfully accused me of, but still I don't suppose it will to those that seek to use this for their own hidden agenda.
Thank you for searching out that past post. I am sorry that your interpretation on what I said seems to fit in with others who would wish to turn my argument into something quite different from what I actually intended.
I would agree that the people that brionon referred to are indeed savages
And I hope that you admit also, the fact that all those who took part in these two heinous rapes are what I said 'savages' also.
Now having put the word 'savages' back into it's correct context ie 'the perpetrators of these crimes'. we come to the word culture,
When I referred to Black culture it was at a time when there were numerous black on black stabbings and shootings all carried out in the name of young black gang culture.
Therefore when these two horrific rapes where committed by numerous members of black gangs, it was relevant to refer to culture, but not to group the whole of Black culture to savages.
my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
I cannot state strongly enough that your interpretation of my comments is completely without substance.
I only hope this will somehow explain what some have wrongfully accused me of, but still I don't suppose it will to those that seek to use this for their own hidden agenda.
Therefore when these two horrific rapes where committed by numerous members of black gangs, it was relevant to refer to culture, but not to group the whole of Black culture to savages.
my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
I cannot state strongly enough that your interpretation of my comments is completely without substance.
I only hope this will somehow explain what some have wrongfully accused me of, but still I don't suppose it will to those that seek to use this for their own hidden agenda.
Thank you for your clarification.
This is where tesxt can be misleading which is why I said my interpretation
I have no issue with calling people who commit savage crimes savages.
The only issue I have is when behaviour of a minority of people is attributed to the whole of their race / colour.
Therefore when these two horrific rapes where committed by numerous members of black gangs, it was relevant to refer to culture, but not to group the whole of Black culture to savages.
I accept your view on this - but can I ask that maybe in future (for clarification purposes) you use the word black gang culture which would probably be more accurate.
Black culture is far more than just about gangs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_ culture
my interpretation of your meaning in this comment is that any one who has a 'black' cultural heritage is a savage.
I cannot state strongly enough that your interpretation of my comments is completely without substance.
I only hope this will somehow explain what some have wrongfully accused me of, but still I don't suppose it will to those that seek to use this for their own hidden agenda.
Thank you for your clarification.
This is where tesxt can be misleading which is why I said my interpretation
I have no issue with calling people who commit savage crimes savages.
The only issue I have is when behaviour of a minority of people is attributed to the whole of their race / colour.
Therefore when these two horrific rapes where committed by numerous members of black gangs, it was relevant to refer to culture, but not to group the whole of Black culture to savages.
I accept your view on this - but can I ask that maybe in future (for clarification purposes) you use the word black gang culture which would probably be more accurate.
Black culture is far more than just about gangs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_ culture
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